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[11:20:46] <d00mw01f> народ прив, как 22 в плане стабильности?
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[11:21:12] <ъыь> так же как и 21 с предыдущими :) которые у меня отлично работали %)
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[11:26:34] <persei[nb]> продам стабилный 22й билд. дорого.
[11:26:43] <ъыь> бугага
[11:27:18] ъыь слушает сейчас Ben Westbeech - Get Closer (4:53) из Cafe Mambo Ibiza 2007 Compiled By Pete Gooding And Afterlife 2CD в Winamp 5.5.3
info from [Variables&WATrack@MirAls 2.0.0.0]persei[nb]: даёшь цитатник конфы? :)

[11:27:19] <ъыь> ой
[11:27:22] <ъыь> persei[nb]: даёшь цитатник конфы? :)
[11:27:39] <persei[nb]> ъыь: не бугагакай тут, а лучше в миранда.им блоге отпиши
[11:27:47] <persei[nb]> не, это имхо не айс
[11:28:03] <persei[nb]> хотя если кто то хочет заняться - то bash.miranda.im в его распоряжении
[11:28:16] <ъыь> а, точно, забыл :(
[11:28:45] <persei[nb]> гы, как меня забавляют парни которые кидают в лог конфы что нибудь чем хотят понтануться, а потом говорят "ой, не туда"
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[11:29:00] <persei[nb]> ой, не туда
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[11:29:43] <ъыь> ага, люблю понтоваться :D
[11:30:39] <persei[nb]> ну так ты отписывай в вике давай
[11:30:44] <persei[nb]> и садюгу тоже привлекай)
[11:31:05] <ъыь> что отписывать?
[11:31:18] <ъыь> садюга? жжош :D
[11:31:32] <persei[nb]> в блоге то есть
[11:31:36] <persei[nb]> а я не виноват что у него ник такой
[11:31:40] <ъыь> дадада
[11:31:55] <ъыь> дай поесть. с одной рукой тяжело писать
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[11:56:00] SaD сейчас сильно запарен хвостом по вышке, но честно обещается отписать обещанное %)
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[11:57:23] <Umnik> вчера мне так и не ответили. Кто-нить юзает рсс.длл?
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[11:57:42] <Dar_veter> Umnik: я
[11:57:52] <Umnik> Dar_veter: у тебя с #22 не крашит?
[11:58:07] <Dar_veter> нет не крашит, работает идеально
[11:58:26] <Dar_veter> ¤ rss.dll v.0.0.3.21 [2008-07-30 23:42:44+0700] - RSSNews
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[11:59:10] <Umnik> ¤ rss.dll v.[b]0.0.3.21[/b] [01 May 2008] - RSSNews
[11:59:23] <Umnik> Хм...
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[11:59:59] <Umnik> Dar_veter: где взял тот, что у тебя?
[12:00:02] <Dar_veter> блин
[12:00:15] <Dar_veter> вот щас вылетел краш :-D
[12:00:21] <persei[nb]> аол снова включил регистрацию из клиентов
[12:01:08] <Dar_veter> Umnik: вроде тут брал http://www.volumna.com.br/pessoal/angelo/
[12:02:17] <Dar_veter> Umnik: хотя не помню, скинуть?
[12:02:32] <Umnik> Dar_veter: да не. Я этому херу криворукому письмо катаю.
[12:03:03] <Umnik> Вот, понятно, почему плагин по freeware лицензией, а не GPL. Потому что в жизни не было, чтобы он не глючил так или иначе.
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[12:03:34] <Dar_veter> Umnik: помнится ядре на 17-18 часто лезли краши из-за рсс, но миранда не падала, потом с обновлением и новым профилем всё исчезло
[12:04:01] <Umnik> Dar_veter: манал бы я делать новый профиль из-за него.
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[12:06:52] <Dar_veter> Umnik: иногда полезно профиль с нуля переписать ) что-то новое находишь иногда )
[12:07:10] <Umnik> Dar_veter: иногда девелоперам полезно не жопой думать ;)
[12:07:40] <Dar_veter> да ладно, все ошибаются )
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[12:30:11] <Umnik> Dar_veter: ну не из версии в версию. Это, кстати, фирменный почерк авторов рсс.длл и экстендет юзер инфо.
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[12:42:25] <Dar_veter> Umnik: нуу, будем тогда надеяться, что исправят )
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[14:26:54] <Zая> привет.кто нить знает плагин игры в шашки есть?
[14:27:42] <bravo123[w]> видел го и шахматы
[14:28:06] <Zая> морской бой есть у меня
[14:28:16] <Zая> шахматы не умею)
[14:28:21] <Zая> а шашки есть?
[14:28:33] <bravo123[w]> http://miranda-im.org/ поищи
[14:28:47] <Zая> bravo123[w]: спс
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[14:39:43] <Zая> *DANCE* есть шашки
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[17:13:18] <Crazy_Wolf> проблема вылезла
на висте сп1 при выходе из миранды вылазиет окно крашдампера от бокры и говорит что мол ошибка всему кирдык а отчет будет сохранен по такомуто пути... на самом деле отчета нет
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[17:14:49] <~GREET~> люди а как сделать что бы попап оповещение о наборе текста, всплывал перед поп апом с сообщением. В принципе что логично. Раньше было все хорошо, сейчас немного бесит что вылетает одновременно 2 поп апа.
http://f.miranda-vi.org/1560/
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[17:47:54] <Dis> как грамотно сделать в джабере "не принимать сообщения от людей не из листа" через списки приватносоти? если ставишь:
1. без подписки - запретить
2. все - разрешить
то даже на каналы зайти не могу.
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[18:26:25] <Stler> УРАААААА
[18:26:26] <Stler> http://bash.org.ru/quote/399160
[18:26:33] <Stler> сама придумала)) я опят на баше!
[18:26:55] <Stler> голосуем))
[18:27:03] <x1shn1k> та, када её увидел даже не улыбнулся
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[18:27:11] <Stler> ну это под настроение..
[18:27:15] <Stler> ща мне самой не смешно)
[18:27:20] <Stler> ниважна
[18:27:23] <Stler> главное -мое :D
[18:28:05] <x1shn1k> готы оценят
[18:28:21] <Stler> ну тя :-/
[18:28:30] <x1shn1k> :-D
[18:28:49] <x1shn1k> Stler: а у тя есть знакомые-готы?
[18:28:59] <Stler> да ни одного))
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[18:29:30] <Stler> просто настроение такое было, и вот такая ситуация придумалась..
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[18:34:30] bravo123[w] " ... иль перечти Женитьбу Фигаро .. " © А.С. Пушкин
[18:35:02] <Dis> нисмишно
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[18:36:40] <Stler> не патриоты(
[18:36:59] <bravo123[w]> хто? Пушкин?
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[18:38:52] <Xeonix> Прив люди
[18:39:18] <Xeonix> Как вас тут много
[18:39:40] <Xeonix> Кстати вопрос какая миранда лучше
[18:39:44] <Xeonix> ?
[18:40:00] <x1shn1k> а миранда одна. то сборок куча
[18:40:22] <Xeonix> Ну значит какая сборка лучше?
[18:40:37] <bravo123[w]> !?? Xeonix rules
[18:40:38] <talisman|bot> bravo123[w]: ушло
[18:40:45] <bravo123[w]> Xeonix: своя
[18:41:35] <bravo123[w]> ??? сборки
[18:41:38] <talisman|bot> bravo123[w]: про <сборки> я знаю следующее:
Сборка - преднастроенная Miranda IM c определённым наборов плагинов и скинов, готовая сразу после установки к полноценной работе. Обычно не требует никакой особой настройки и имеет благодаря плагинам расширенную функциональность. Выбрать себе сборку и скачать можно с http://miranda-planet.com/packs/ (from SaD)
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[18:43:43] <Xeonix> bravo123[w]: я не умею собирать их
[18:44:11] <bravo123[w]> см постом выше
[18:44:26] <Xeonix> bravo123[w]: ага
[18:45:02] bravo123[w] is now known as bravo123[h]
[18:46:01] <Xeonix> bravo123[w]: а там написано как собирать их?
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[18:46:21] <bravo123[h]> там готовые
[18:47:20] <Xeonix> bravo123[h]: а если статья где написано как их собирать?
[18:48:00] <Dis> Xeonix: копируй все плагины в папку Plugins. запускай. настраивай
[18:48:36] <Dis> как ставить крыжики и гонять ползунки думаю знаеш? :)
[18:48:46] <Dis> плагины можно взять на сайте (есть в шапке)
[18:48:48] <Dis> описания там же
[18:48:54] <Xeonix> Dis: ну а как ее в установочный упаковать?
[18:48:59] <Dis> Xeonix: а зачем?
[18:49:26] <Xeonix> Dis: дак а как я хочу свою сборку сделать
[18:49:28] <Dis> собирай для себя. настраивай чистую (без контактов). потом архивируй и храни так.
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[18:49:57] <Xeonix> Dis: да нет уж я хочу свою сборку иметь
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[18:50:08] <Dis> если хочеш свою - собираеш какую хочеш. настраиваеш (не указывая логинов). потом качаеш любой установщик. InstallShield или CrystallInstall или еще чего
[18:50:17] <Dis> и ему скармливаеш папку. настраиваеш диалоги.
[18:50:18] <bravo123[h]> Xeonix: смотри на форуме ..
[18:50:22] <Dis> этол уже к миранде не относится
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[18:50:42] <Dis> Xeonix: это и будет твоя сборка. просто без инсталятора.
[18:50:46] <Xeonix> bravo123[h]: спс
[18:50:46] <Dis> в чем прикол инсталятора?
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[18:51:28] <Xeonix> Dis: короче если че сможешь помочь?
[18:52:02] <bravo123[h]> Dis: хорошая сборка должна быть с инсталятором, с выбором плагинов, тем и т.д.
[18:52:17] <Dis> bravo123[h]: он для себя делает. он же сказал
[18:52:24] <Xeonix> bravo123[h]: ну вот я такую и хочу сделать
[18:52:27] <bravo123[h]> а плохих и так хватает, даже с инсталяторами ..
[18:52:45] <Xeonix> Dis: почему не тока для себя
[18:53:10] <Dis> Xeonix: тогда читай форум. в 2 словах не обьяснить. + читай форум и помощ от того инсталятора которым будеш делать сборку.
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[19:32:13] <saniab> гутен морг!
[19:33:21] <saniab> кто подскажет как в табе вызвать смайлы не прибегая к мышке,только клавишами?
[19:33:54] <bravo123[h]> alt+E
[19:35:02] <saniab> *THUMBS UP*
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[19:36:31] <saniab> bravo123[h]: а как клавишами выбрать ник в конфе?
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[19:37:12] <al.dexter> saniab: пишешь первую букву, а потом таб жмешь
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[19:37:42] <bravo123[h]> saniab: у тебя мышка сломалась?
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[19:38:33] <saniab> al.dexter: не катит
[19:38:49] <saniab> bravo123[h]: слава Богу,нет.
[19:39:25] <bravo123[h]> ну и не трахай моск тогда :-)
[19:39:47] <al.dexter> saniab: что не катит?
[19:40:22] <saniab> al.dexter: у меня пуенто свичер при таком сочетание просто меняет раскладку.
[19:40:41] <bravo123[h]> настрой пунту нормально
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[19:42:25] <saniab> bravo123[h]: дык вроде пормально. по правому Ctrl
[19:42:48] <bravo123[h]> у меня тоже пунто, всё катит ..
[19:42:51] <~GREET~> убей пунто)
[19:43:22] <saniab> al.dexter сработало!
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[19:44:29] <saniab> bravo123[h]: а на тебе не получается...
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[19:45:03] <bravo123[h]> вот такой, я , загадочный ..
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[19:46:27] <saniab> bravo123[h] вот и нет. просто на некоторых никах нужно 2 буквы пробивать.
[19:48:08] <bravo123[h]> ну да, не один я на b , на некоторых никах и больше придётся ..
[19:49:12] <saniab> bravo123[h]: логично. плохо что при таком методе двоеточие после ника не появляется
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[19:51:19] <saniab> bravo123[h]: я сочетанием клавиш заинтересовался после того как увидел как один чел работает на клаве без мышки.
[19:53:08] <bravo123[h]> saniab: http://miranda.or.at/TabSrmm:Keyboard
[19:53:42] <~GREET~> вообще хоткеи это очень рульная тема, не только в миранде)
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[19:54:50] <saniab> bravo123[h]: ок
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[19:59:41] <saniab> bravo123[h]: обожаю машинны переводы!
"Приклейте и немедленно пошлите" :-D
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[20:12:44] <DroN_Bf> Здрасте
[20:13:29] <bravo123[h]> !?? DroN_Bf rules
[20:13:29] <talisman|bot> bravo123[h]: ушло
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[20:15:00] <DroN_Bf> Свою М-ИМ не модернезировал почти год, т.к. доступа к девайсу не имел. А теперь задолбал спам. Подскажите плз модуль антиspam для ядра 070
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[20:15:44] <bravo123[h]> stopspam
[20:16:38] <DroN_Bf> а сцилко есть?
[20:16:41] <bravo123[h]> http://koshechka.miranda.im/2008/07/14/stopspam/
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[20:19:40] <DroN_Bf> bravo123[h]: пасибо). счас протестим
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[20:22:19] <DroN_Bf> ошипка приложения :-(
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[20:26:22] <DroN_Bf> а ёще что-нибудь есть?
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[20:31:41] <ъыь> пинг ezxdev.org
[20:31:44] <talisman|bot> ъыь: понг от ezxdev.org 3.252 секунд
[20:31:48] <ъыь> днс ezxdev.org
[20:31:48] <talisman|bot> ъыь: 92.241.181.100
[20:31:54] <ъыь> днс 92.241.181.100
[20:31:54] <talisman|bot> ъыь: не нахожу что-то :(
[20:32:02] <ъыь> ухты :)
[20:32:50] <ъыь> днc talisman-bot.com
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[20:40:26] <DroN_Bf> рабочий вариант. найденный на последний траф "StopSpam 0.0.0.21"; сцилко - http://addons.miranda-im.org/feed.php?dlfile=1561
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[20:41:33] <DroN_Bf> фсем пасибо 8-)
[20:41:52] <bravo123[h]> DroN_Bf: оно с юникодом не дружит
[20:42:15] <bravo123[h]> лучше миранду обнови и кошечкин ставь
[20:43:19] <DroN_Bf> bravo123[h]: если недружит, почему его тогда на оф сайте не обновили?
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[20:49:12] <DroN_Bf> !p
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[20:55:32] <DroN_Bf> =-O
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[21:09:58] <Stler> :-[ http://bash.org.ru/quote/399160 а все равно потыкайте мне плюсик?)
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[21:32:28] <DoomCreeper> Stler: :))))) +
[21:34:42] <Stler> DoomCreeper: :)
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[22:23:35] <saniab> интересную вещь заметил. если при запущенных аське и агенте изменить статус на жабе,миранда падает
[22:25:53] <saniab> в смысле,запущенных плагинах названных протоколов.
[22:26:02] <bravo123[h]> у меня не падает
[22:26:07] <Rbs> +1
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[22:26:58] <saniab> bravo123[h]: на предыдущем бильде этого не было
[22:27:20] <bravo123[h]> версия saniab
[22:27:20] <talisman|bot> bravo123[h]: Miranda IM Jabber 0.8.0.19 в Windows XP
[22:28:07] <saniab> bravo123[h]: у меня 22,но почему то показывает 19
[22:28:21] <bravo123[h]> это джабер
[22:28:30] <bravo123[h]> он и есть 19
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[22:33:34] <saniab> bravo123[h]: как мне помнится,ранее по запросу бот выдавал версию миранды и доболнительно жаббера.
[22:34:26] <bravo123[w]> это сейчас убрали , зачем-то привели к какому то XEP ...
[22:35:04] <bravo123[w]> у меня вобще-то миранда из SVN , попробуй обнови агента ..
[22:35:12] <saniab> bravo123[w]: пути девелоперов неисповедимы...
[22:35:56] <bravo123[w]> просто привели к стандарту, хотя как раньше было удобней ..
[22:36:32] <bravo123[w]> saniab: http://ivan83.myip.us/download/MirandaIM/Mra.dll
[22:36:45] <bravo123[w]> там от 11\09\2008
[22:38:02] <saniab> bravo123[w]: какая версия?
[22:38:08] <bravo123[w]> даже от 14 - ¤ Mra.dll v.[b]1.16.0.2[/b] [14 Sep 2008] - Mail.ru Agent |Unicode aware|
[22:38:30] <saniab> bravo123[w]: ок
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[22:39:57] <saniab> bravo123[w]: и автор подтверждает. ;-)
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[22:47:56] <saniab> bravo123[w]: поставил через модуль загрузки,понемял статус на жабе,миранда упала.
[22:49:12] <bravo123[w]> через модуль загрузки - это как?
[22:50:25] <saniab> bravo123[w]: наверно не правильно сказал. плагин,позволяющий добавлять другие плагины без перезапуска миранды.
[22:50:41] <bravo123[w]> убей его нафиг
[22:50:53] <bravo123[w]> dina?
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[22:52:08] <bravo123[w]> он древний и глючный, коректно выгружать и загружать не может ..
[22:52:09] <saniab> bravo123[w]: он.
[22:52:43] <bravo123[w]> да и пользы от него ...
[22:53:01] <saniab> bravo123[w]: так он на планете почти в самом начале лежал.
[22:53:36] <bravo123[w]> в начале чего? времён? :-)
[22:54:00] <saniab> bravo123[w]: в начале раздела плагины.
[22:54:18] <saniab> bravo123[w]: отключил.
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[22:58:20] <bravo123[w]> !seen dizy
[22:58:21] <gluxi|bot> bravo123[w]: I never see "dizy" here
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[23:19:32] <bravo123[w]> !seen dizzy
[23:19:32] <gluxi|bot> bravo123[w]: I never see "dizzy" here
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[23:49:07] <astronah> активность сумашедшая
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