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[02:41:11] <al.dexter> чот коммитов давно нигде не было
[02:43:59] <bravo123> так гоши нет, у остальных сессии или ещё какие нибудь отмазы ..
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[02:58:30] <al.dexter> bravo123: а где он?
[02:59:27] <bravo123> уехал куда-то говорили ..
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[06:51:04] <Dar_veter> dbx_tree у кого-нибудь работает без крашей? или что ещё надо этой базы?
[06:51:49] <CATMAN> Бтв, где про неё поподробнее почитать можно?
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[07:40:59] <d00mw01f> народ хелп миранда видит протоколы аси и жабы но не отображает их нигде. тока в модулях есть
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[10:04:45] <al.dexter> бобрутро
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[10:16:16] <d00mw01f> а почему миранда зависает когда нажимаеш кномочку войти в чат и набираеш руками?
[10:16:23] <d00mw01f> когда копируеш все норм
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[10:24:00] <d00mw01f> ну?
[10:25:30] <al.dexter> d00mw01f: чот не виснет
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[10:31:18] <CATMAN> Эм, если в ХПП логе при рандомных условиях пост в журнале заменяется на "richedittext0" я должен начать волноваться ? ^_^
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[11:24:39] <talisman.bot> ъыь> Привет!!!
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[11:27:29] <.persei> ъыь: ммап_са обновился.
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[11:29:04] <ъыь> .persei: Ъ
[11:29:24] <ъыь> уже можно спокойно юзать?
[11:29:29] <.persei> да
[11:29:42] <.persei> меня клайд уговаривает сделать ключ составным
[11:29:49] <.persei> но для этого нужно совсем сломать хедер
[11:30:07] <.persei> я в ближайшее время этого делать не хочу
[11:30:21] <ъыь> а чем это грозит?
[11:30:33] <ъыь> геморно просто? :)
[11:30:34] <.persei> потерей обратной совместимости
[11:30:47] <ъыь> а
[11:30:55] <.persei> там придется заголовок увеличивать
[11:30:57] <ъыь> а свн когда уже выложишь?
[11:31:00] <.persei> то есть сдвигать всю базу
[11:31:06] <.persei> выложу на днях
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[11:31:26] <.persei> просто это мааааленькое преимущество над кофеводами ;)
[11:31:43] <ъыь> хихихи
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[11:32:12] <.persei> http://persei.miranda.im/files/taskmgr.png
[11:33:35] <.persei> при этом значок в трее хаотично бьется в конвульсиях
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[11:33:54] <.persei> это продолажлось минут 20
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[11:34:06] <.persei> потом я его тупо прибил
[11:35:05] <~GREET~> суперовый алгоритм прикрутили к ммапмоду)
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[11:35:26] <.persei> в плане?
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[11:35:53] <~GREET~> в хорошом плане)
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[11:40:16] <ъыь> .persei: ты кстати видел как эту страничку перекосило?
http://forum.miranda.im/showthread.php?t=1491
[11:41:08] <d00mw01f> народ как в скине для клиста модерна убрать верхнюю панель?
[11:41:17] <.persei> ъыь: уже нет :p
[11:41:26] <ъыь> :)
[11:41:33] <.persei> и вообще, ты супер-модератор, фигли ты меня по каждому поводу дергаешь
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[11:43:50] <d00mw01f> а?
[11:44:19] <ъыь> .persei: зобыл %)
[11:44:40] <.persei> d00mw01f: панель идет со скином?
[11:44:47] <d00mw01f> да
[11:45:00] <d00mw01f> мне она не нравиться, хочу тулбар пользовать
[11:45:23] <.persei> d00mw01f: только если скин ковырять
[11:45:38] <d00mw01f> вот мне нужна помошь
[11:45:41] <d00mw01f> как и что
[11:45:50] <.persei> d00mw01f: fyr.miranda.im
[11:46:09] <.persei> там где то мануал был по созданию скинов
[11:46:12] <d00mw01f> пошел смотерть
[11:47:33] <.persei> хы. миранда-фр.нет умир?
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[12:01:23] <talisman.bot> ъыь> Привет!!!
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[12:39:20] <.persei> !greet ъыь=
[12:39:29] <.persei> или как там
[12:39:32] <.persei> команды
[12:39:32] <talisman.bot> .persei: ушли
[12:39:54] <.persei> greet ъыь=
[12:39:54] <talisman.bot> .persei: убил
[12:40:06] <.persei> спасибо
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[13:01:15] <.persei> пинг qip.ru
[13:01:16] <talisman.bot> .persei: понг от qip.ru 0.492 секунд
[13:01:20] <.persei> инфа qip.ru
[13:01:20] <talisman.bot> .persei: Инфа о qip.ru:
users/all-hosts/total: 0 users
users/all-hosts/online: 8067 users
users/total: 0 users
users/online: 8067 users
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[13:01:36] <.persei> пинг gmail.com
[13:01:42] <.persei> пинг talk.google.com
[13:01:42] <talisman.bot> .persei: не пингуется
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[13:26:59] <~GREET~> кстати этот http://persei.miranda.im/mmap_sa/dbtool.exe дбтул
не убьет последний ммапмод?
[13:27:10] <~GREET~> точнее базу)
[13:28:06] <~GREET~> а то как то странно, драйвер обновили а дбтул еше за апрель
[13:32:12] <bravo123> а ты расшифруй базу, а потом дбтулом
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[13:34:40] <~GREET~> типа штатным который идет в ночнике?
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[13:34:53] <bravo123> угу
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[14:55:05] <demon_lite> Привет всем!
Есть вопрос. Можно ли как-нить привязать к каждому пользователю фотоальбом, или хотя бы одно фото?
Если настраивать в профиле в пункте "Фото", то оно сбивается и вместо его постоянно втавится аватор.
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[15:07:26] <O-Neil> demon_lite: там опция такая есть: "Protect the picture"
[15:09:05] <O-Neil> блин этот фильтр
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[15:25:18] <Krond> ~GREET~: исли базу перед проходом расшифруешь, то все будет нормально :) в ридми персей же написал, что дбтул будет позже :)
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[15:25:51] <~GREET~> это я уже понял
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[15:29:38] <SaD> А mmap_sa с новым алгоритмом шифрования и правда тормозит. А у меня далеко не калькулятор
[15:30:17] <NightFox> SaD: а в чём тормоза заключаются ?
[15:30:35] <SaD> NightFox: запуск )
[15:31:10] <NightFox> хм, надо будет сравнить..
[15:31:21] <NightFox> SaD: как кстати скачка?
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[15:33:15] <SaD> NightFox: Всё уже ) сенкс ) Сорь забыл отписать )
[15:33:34] <NightFox> :)
[15:33:37] <SaD> И шифровка/дешифровка подвешивает все на секунд 30-40
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[15:33:54] <NightFox> SaD: а какого размера база?
[15:33:59] <SaD> 23 метра
[15:34:46] <SaD> В общем как не весело
[15:34:54] <NightFox> а, ну у меня щас намного поменьше(1,536.00 KBytes), недавно делал чистку... вот и не заметно наверное..
[15:35:21] <SaD> Ну 23 метра это небольшая относительно база...
[15:35:52] <SaD> Надо какой нить прогресбарчик, нужно чтобы миранда не вешалась бы просто, нужна скорость и надёжнось... Эх..
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[15:39:33] <NightFox> SaD: ну там в теме Klyde говорил что можно повысить скорость раза в полтора-два, только при это криптостойкость упадёт..
[15:39:47] <NightFox> так что выбирай либо это либо то
[15:40:33] <SaD> Вот вот (
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[15:44:39] <~GREET~> у меня норм
[15:45:03] <ъыь> SaD: 23 метра небольшая? да по сравнению с 4гб на багсах это просто туфта, а не база :D
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[15:45:21] <ъыь> у меня вообще 4.2мб
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[15:45:52] <SaD> ъыь: Ну там кривая база была )
[15:46:04] <SaD> ъыь: Постоянно чистишь историю? )
[15:46:04] <ъыь> но сам размер впечатляет :)
[15:46:39] <ъыь> SaD: скорее говорю мало :) у меня за историю msg_export.dll отвечает
[15:46:53] <SaD> ))
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[15:47:10] <ъыь> http://als-als.ya.ru/replies.xml?item_no=220
выскажитесь, если хотите :)
[15:49:01] <~GREET~> кстати меня тоже интересует такой совет)
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[16:59:51] <d00mw01f> кто нить сам скины делал для клиста модерн?
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[17:05:49] <al.dexter> Angeli-Ka: ответь человеку :)
[17:06:00] <Angeli-Ka> а?
[17:06:33] <d00mw01f> Angeli-Ka: )) можно пару вопросиков?
[17:07:00] <Angeli-Ka> d00mw01f: давай..
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[17:08:25] <d00mw01f> Angeli-Ka : нашел почти полностью подходящий скин. но в нем не нужная мне панелька. решил ее убрать. полез в конфиг, удалил строчки связанные с ним и картинки. но осталось место под эти кнопки
[17:09:04] <d00mw01f> Angeli-Ka : нужно место удалить, но я не нашел как
[17:09:35] <Angeli-Ka> d00mw01f: код скина разделен на 3 части, надо удалить во всех трех соответствующие строки
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[17:10:06] <d00mw01f> в первой удалил переменные, во второй тоже. а вот в третей не нашел
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[17:10:44] <d00mw01f> третья часть совсем не понятная:
[17:10:46] <d00mw01f> [CLUI]
LeftClientMargin=b17
TopClientMargin=b52
RightClientMargin=b17
BottomClientMargin=b12
EqualSections=b0
LeftOffset=d1
RightOffset=d1
SpaceBetween=d3
[CLC]
HiLightMode=b1
GroupIndent=b0
[17:10:49] <Angeli-Ka> d00mw01f: и там практически нет "места" просто остальные элементы не занимают после того как ты удалил один, вот оно и остаеться пустым
[17:11:35] <Angeli-Ka> d00mw01f: это настройки в базу записываються
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[17:11:45] <d00mw01f> я могу в приват кинуть исходный и исправленный, если надо..
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[17:20:16] <O-Neil> d00mw01f: TopClientMargin уменьши!
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[17:20:42] <O-Neil> гдето до 12ти
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[17:21:52] <d00mw01f> O-Neil: до 12 нельзя там еще кнопки сверху, но все равно спасибо, помогло
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[17:38:53] <ъыь> [17:35:08] Жирный (mozg@jabber.avtlg.ru/HotCoffee) вошел
[17:35:19] +Жирный: Здорово всем
[17:35:40] +Жирный: кстать, не кому не нужен жир подешевке?
[17:35:43] +Жирный: аая жирный
[17:35:45] +Жирный: ааа
[17:35:47] +Жирный: )))
[17:35:50] +Жирный: хачу жир
[17:35:52] +Жирный: аа
[17:35:56] +Жирный: жир жир
[17:35:57] +Жирный: ))
[17:35:58] +Жирный: ddd
[17:36:51] Пользователь Жирный был забанен.
[17:36:51] Модератор выкинул Жирный: оффтоп!
[17:38:59] <ъыь> чего ещё ожидать от хоткофейцев? :)
[17:39:20] <Krond> ъыь: :-D
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[18:55:32] <Bolshevik> Кто-то шарит в асику протоколе? Такой вопрос, при безопасном логине используется мд5 хеш пароля, а при смене пароля в каком виде отправляется старый пароль?
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[19:13:47] <Nurofen> Подскажите,как осуществить? сохранение мп3 с вавовским RIFF заголовком
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[20:12:47] <.persei> господа, кто что скажет по поводу этого бука?
http://ru.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=24&l3=297&l4=0&model=1667&modelmenu=2
40к рублей со всеми опциями
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[20:14:32] <Bolshevik> .persei: ты то мне и нужен:), такой вопрос, при безопасном логине используется мд5 хеш пароля, а при смене пароля в каком виде отправляется старый пароль?
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[20:17:24] <bravo123> .persei: шото дороговат
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[20:21:46] <theMIROn> .persei я се вот этот приглядел
http://gulf.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/productPage.do?service=AE&PRODUCT_ID=144989&toshibaShop=false
[20:21:53] <theMIROn> ценовой диапазон - примерно тот же
[20:26:41] <theMIROn> ого, u400 уже появились
[20:32:09] <theMIROn> http://gulf.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/productPage.do?service=AE&PRODUCT_ID=150504&toshibaShop=false
[20:32:17] <theMIROn> вот это кайф
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[22:25:25] <d00mw01f> какой параметр прописать ProfileDir в mirandaboot.ini чтоб конйиг создался в папке с мирандой? миранда на флешке
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[23:04:20] <d00mw01f> народ такая проблема. я че то нахимичил, не знаю че и теперь вокруг иконок протоколов и +/- сворачивания группы черный фон, как бороться?
[23:05:09] <x1shn1k> d00mw01f: скриншот можно?
[23:05:34] <d00mw01f> ээ ну счас сделаю
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[23:07:50] <d00mw01f> куда выложить?
[23:07:59] <d00mw01f> или тут отправить?
[23:08:05] <d00mw01f> через жабу
[23:08:12] <x1shn1k> лушче выложи куда-то
[23:08:20] <d00mw01f> ок
[23:08:23] <bravo123> imageshack.us
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[23:13:03] <d00mw01f> http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6286/78160120qc7.jpg
[23:14:32] <bravo123> d00mw01f: а химичил чего? иконки менял?
[23:15:18] <d00mw01f> че я сегодня толmrj не делал, этот скин переделывал и много еще чего
[23:15:50] <d00mw01f> только*
[23:16:32] <bravo123> ну так поствь плюсики с нормальной прозрачностью
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[23:17:41] <d00mw01f> вот сами плюсики я не менял
[23:17:52] <d00mw01f> так же как и иконки протоколов
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[23:37:00] <Nurofen> Ребят,подскажите ,как осуществить? Сохранение мп3 с вавовским RIFF заголовком позволяет миранде проигрывать мп3 Чет я фразу не доганяю
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[23:37:43] <Nurofen> Тоесть можно перекодировать? Мп3 или вав ? В мп3
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[23:38:44] <SaD> Эм.. не проще перекодировать в wav? Или так место мало?
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