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[01:28:55] <dont> Ребят, а винда умеет становиться паралельно с линуксом?
[01:29:12] <dont> Хочу запихнуть её в 4-й праймари раздел, а она не даётся )
[01:30:00] <dont> Она уммет только на первый раздел ставать, там где начальные сектора, или как?
[01:30:11] <L29Ah> она говно
[01:30:15] <dont> Да я в курсе
[01:30:21] <L29Ah> проще поставить сначала венду, а потом всё остальное
[01:30:28] <dont> да нет, не проще
[01:30:32] <L29Ah> потому что у неё самые шизофреничные требования к разметке
[01:30:33] <dont> Мне её на 2 дня только поставить
[01:30:41] <dont> кое что потестить нужно
[01:30:42] <L29Ah> а зачем тогда вообще ставить?
[01:30:46] <L29Ah> виртуалка же
[01:30:58] <dont> ноут же
[01:31:01] <L29Ah> и что?
[01:31:03] <dont> Не очень сильный
[01:31:10] <dont> ТОрмоза сплошные
[01:31:18] <L29Ah> "кое-что потестить" - тридэ-игрушка?
[01:31:23] <dont> Но как вариант подойдёт
[01:31:28] <L29Ah> иначе не вижу причины не потерпеть тормозов
[01:31:29] <dont> не, софтина финдовая
[01:31:39] <dont> Ну ок. Вариант принимается
[01:31:43] <dont> Но все таки
[01:31:48] <dont> Её не льзя так поставить
[01:32:00] <dont> ?
[01:32:23] <dont> А, ну да. Мне еще iTunes нуже
[01:32:27] <L29Ah> фиг знает, никогда не ставил винду рядом с линуксом :-)
[01:32:42] <dont> как там виртуалки с usb дружат
[01:32:45] <L29Ah> а ещё я не понимаю, кому может быть нужен iTunes, когда есть торренты
[01:33:12] <dont> iTunes нужен, что бы залить все добро, которое стянуто с торрентсов на айпод
[01:33:37] <MarSoft> virtualbox вроде бы вполне дружит с юсб.
[01:34:03] <MarSoft> там через меню можно "примонтировать" любое реальное usb устройство к витруальной машине
[01:34:26] <dont> ок, так наверное и сделаю
[01:34:38] <dont> Но все таки интересует, винда паралельно с линуксом не станет?
[01:35:04] <L29Ah> а айпод не умеет вести себя как человеческий usb storage?
[01:35:11] <dont> нет конечно де
[01:35:13] <dont> *же
[01:35:17] <L29Ah> ну и бред
[01:35:26] <L29Ah> как можно покупать тогда ябло
[01:35:29] <dont> В смысле на него можно залить что-то и потом вытянуть, но слушать не получиться
[01:35:34] <L29Ah> а
[01:35:37] <dont> Это у сестры яблоко ;-)
[01:35:52] <MarSoft> % eix ipod
* app-pda/ipodslave
Description: KDE ioslave for managing the Apple iPod
[01:36:03] <MarSoft> не то?
[01:36:08] <L29Ah> http://www.opennet.ru/prog/info/2567.shtml
[01:36:12] <dont> не, лучше нейтивным
[01:36:18] <L29Ah> поставь на него лялегз и не парься
[01:36:27] <dont> Малая каждые выходные прибегает за музыкой
[01:36:32] <dont> Юзал всё амарок
[01:36:39] <dont> Но там проблем не огребешься
[01:36:50] <dont> Решил для этого дела выделить винду ;-)
[01:37:07] <MarSoft> * app-pda/gtkpod
[01:37:40] <dont> L29Ah: Ты что предлагаешь сетсре на айпод линух поставить? )))
[01:37:57] <MarSoft> а что? будут ей понты :)
[01:39:08] <L29Ah> угу
[01:47:37] <dont> Да, с виртуалкой даже лучше будет
[01:48:18] <dont> Можно будет сеть организовать, а мне как-раз то и нужно с линуксовой машины взиамодействовать с виндовым сервером
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[12:35:42] <superbetmen> Народ ктонить уже переходил на ехт4
[12:37:00] <superbetmen> У меня чтото затерся идентификатор раздела
[12:37:33] <superbetmen> Ну или как он там называется. Выдается через blkid
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[12:44:01] <SteelHeart> superbetmen: я использую ext4
[12:44:51] <superbetmen> ну ты переходил или формотировал
[12:45:34] <superbetmen> SteelHeart: и как по надежности если резет сделать, не полетит
[12:45:48] <SteelHeart> я собирал на ней
[12:46:16] <superbetmen> ну блин так легко. а вот переходить та посложнее
[12:46:25] <superbetmen> как ID востоновить?
[12:46:41] <SteelHeart> у тебя что за система ?
[12:47:02] <superbetmen> ясли я тут то наверно gentoo
[12:47:09] <SteelHeart> )
[12:47:19] <SteelHeart> У меня Mandriva
[12:47:29] <SteelHeart> :-D
[12:47:34] <superbetmen> :)
[12:47:51] <superbetmen> ну так стабильна она уже или нет
[12:47:51] <SteelHeart> Ну хз, нормальная файловая система
[12:47:58] <SteelHeart> версия
[12:48:03] <SteelHeart> ?
[12:48:37] <SteelHeart> 2009.1 кажись
[12:49:00] <superbetmen> нууу у меня новее
[12:49:07] <superbetmen> ядро чем в мандриве
[12:49:27] <SteelHeart> У меня 2.6.28
[12:49:54] <superbetmen> у меня 2.6.29
[12:50:10] <SteelHeart> я не спешу
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[14:34:07] <LonFas> Всем привет
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[17:16:33] <superbetmen> кстати что лутше LXDE или openbox + fbpanel + idesk или возможно compiz + fbpanel + idesk
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[17:35:56] <dont> Кто подскажет, как сделать видымыми usb-устройства на Гостевой машине в виртаулбоксе. В устройства -> usb устройства ниодного нету. Хотя к компу подключены флешка и айпод.
[17:36:04] <dont> Права согласно мануалу выставил
[17:36:15] <dont> В /etc/fstab
[17:36:36] <dont> Гостевая - винда
[17:38:40] <dont> Да, и ещё. Как востановить загрузчик виндовый в виртуалбокве ? ;-)
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[17:40:33] <dont> MarSoft: Ароде ж ты мне вчера говорил, что с usb все просто?
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[17:53:11] <ZeVoluciON> а разве нет?
[17:54:02] <ZeVoluciON> свойства-usb-включить контроллер usb - добавить
[17:57:06] <dont> virtualbox-ose. В свойствах у меня такого нет
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[20:40:59] <Nickolay Hodyunya> Нашел очень няшный jabber клиент под qt написанный на mono - http://synapse.im В зависимостях присутсвуют qyoto и kimono которые идут в составе kdebindings. Пользуюсь сэтом @kde-live из kde-testing оверлэя. в составе @kdebindings-live отсутсвует всё, что надо для работы synapse. Как быть?
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[22:22:07] <dont> Да, у virtualbox-ose нет прямого доступа к usb-устройствам из гостевой ОС.
[22:24:54] <dont> The following list shows the enterprise features that are only present in the closed-source edition. Note that this list may change over time as some of these features will eventually be made available with the open-source version as well. * USB support
VirtualBox implements a virtual USB controller and supports passing through USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices to virtual machines.
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[23:34:21] <MarSoft> dont: я ставил virtualbox-bin, и доступ к устройствам там есть.
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[23:38:37] <l2ping> люди кто нибудь пользуются nagios ?
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