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[11:12:11] <freej> вечера всем =)
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[16:32:05] <LonFas> HI all
[16:33:10] <Agamestor> LonFas:
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[17:32:39] <tonn> не у кого не было проблеммы с libdrm последним?... 3 часа искал изза чего иксы убивают систему... притом так что только через alt+sys+o можно выключится =(
[17:33:51] <lexa_> tonn: поподробнее пожалуйста
[17:34:06] <lexa_> описаные симптомы испытывал я
[17:34:13] <tonn> lexa_, а что подробнее написать? версию?
[17:34:21] <catap> http://catap.ru/blog/2009/05/03/about-memory-oom-killer/
[17:34:43] <tonn> =x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.9
[17:35:01] <tonn> lexa_, видуха какая?... у меня ati x1270 mobility
[17:35:38] <lexa_> nvidia FX5200 я пытал nouveau и он стал виснуть после обновления
[17:36:32] <tonn> ну вообщем я его замаскал откатился на предыдущий... 2.4.6 кажется
[17:40:33] <lexa_> catap: а в емаксе есть oom killer ?
[17:40:41] <lexa_> ну или его аналог ?
[17:40:54] <tonn> 300 попугаев на x1270 в glxgears - это нормально? или мож еще че поковырять? ))
[17:41:48] <O01eg> маловато будет
[17:42:29] <tonn> вроде все что можно включил.... compiz кстати почему то только в indirect mode работает
[17:44:23] <catap> lexa_: эээ, не понял?
[17:44:40] <lexa_> catap: да я уж сам понял, что ступил
[17:45:04] <catap> lexa_: ты бы лучше критику какую высказал :)
[17:45:09] <catap> может где накосячил я
[17:45:41] <lexa_> :)
[17:46:59] <ZeVoluciON> кстати да, у друга тоже карточка ати и иксы периодически грузят систему, даже по ssh с трудом удается подключиться
[17:47:16] <ZeVoluciON> хм
[17:47:20] <ZeVoluciON> только у него дебиан
[17:48:13] <ZeVoluciON> причем явных причин выделить не удается, все время что_то новое
[17:49:31] <tonn> да наверно эт изза несовместимости атишных дравов с новыми дрмами
[17:50:12] catap задумался, а может сделать /pcoc/$PID/badnes_points?
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[17:51:02] <ZeVoluciON> что это даст?
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[17:59:20] <tonn> эммм... glxgears хавает 25% одного ядра.... это нормально?
[18:00:07] <O01eg> нет, надо 100%
[18:00:36] <catap> хз
[18:00:52] <mexus> у меня сто
[18:00:58] <tonn> если 100% то это точно программный рендеринг
[18:01:24] <O01eg> glxinfo | grep Direct
[18:01:46] <tonn> yes )))
[18:01:47] <mexus> мб direct?)
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[18:03:08] <LonFas> hi all I reinstall gentoo
[18:03:18] <LonFas> but i have one trouble
[18:03:28] <tonn> зачем ее переустанавливать? О_о
[18:03:33] <mexus> дай угадаю какую))
[18:03:36] <LonFas> i can't use russian keyboard
[18:03:43] <LonFas> :)
[18:03:45] <mexus> в иксах или ваще?
[18:03:57] <LonFas> in X
[18:04:01] <O01eg> xorg & hal error?
[18:04:06] <LonFas> on console all good
[18:04:08] <LonFas> no
[18:04:11] <ZeVoluciON> а версия иксов какая?
[18:04:14] <O01eg> yes
[18:04:18] <LonFas> 3.5.9
[18:04:25] <ZeVoluciON> а то я давеча тоже с таким встретился
[18:04:51] <ZeVoluciON> настройки клавы теперь в hal'е
[18:05:13] <LonFas> everytime i install kdebase, but now i install kdebase-startkde
[18:05:23] <tonn> LonFas, http://paste.org.ru/?4je2ue вот это пропиши
[18:05:28] <mexus> cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi - ?
[18:05:44] <mexus> блин
[18:05:48] <mexus> 5 секунд =(
[18:05:50] <tonn> )))
[18:06:12] <ZeVoluciON> :)
[18:07:00] <mexus> кстати, а что такое "комозитная" клавиша?
[18:07:05] <mexus> compose которая
[18:08:10] <LonFas> now restart hal?
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[18:08:23] <ZeVoluciON> наверное временная переключалка
[18:08:23] <tonn> угу...
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[18:09:30] <tonn> как у ати частоту на проце и памяти посмотреть?
[18:09:49] <mexus> понятно, спасибо
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[18:14:46] <mexus> как проверить, определяется ли конкретная клавиша клавы системой или нет?
[18:15:10] <mexus> у меня на мелкомягкой эргономичной клаве есть доп кнопки, и вот на них в xfce ничего нельзя повесить, потому что он вроде как их не видит
[18:15:19] <ZeVoluciON> запустить xev и поглядеть
[18:15:20] <mexus> хотя хал определяет клаву корректно
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[18:16:05] <mexus> чё-то при нажатии выдаёт
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[18:16:38] <L29Ah> халофилы опять плачут
[18:16:46] <L29Ah> и продолжают есть кактус
[18:17:44] <mexus> коды 192-196
[18:17:49] <mexus> как мне теперь на них чё-нить повесить?)
[18:17:57] <ZeVoluciON> через xmodmap
[18:18:23] <ZeVoluciON> L29Ah, а альтернатива какая?
[18:19:26] <mexus> хы
[18:19:32] <mexus> когда уже у иксов появится альтернатива? =)
[18:20:11] <O01eg> mexus: fb же
[18:20:31] <mexus> классная альтернатива
[18:20:48] <tonn> плин... судя повсему x1270 работает на максимум своих возможностей =( 400фпс както мало
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[18:21:17] <ZeVoluciON> mexus, http://dpaste.com/40520/ - это у меня в ¬/.xmodmap
[18:21:24] <ZeVoluciON> hm
[18:21:48] <mexus> ¬ это ~?)
[18:22:04] <mexus> спс)
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[18:26:02] <mexus> файл должен называеться .xmodmap или .xmodmaprc?
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[18:28:39] <ZeVoluciON> .Xmodmap
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[18:32:01] <mexus> спс
[18:34:23] <L29Ah> ZeVoluciON: альтернатива для чего?
[18:34:56] <ZeVoluciON> hal'a
[18:35:14] <L29Ah> а зачем он?
[18:35:35] <L29Ah> всё равно, что спрашивать про альтернативу компизу
[18:37:24] <mexus> класс
[18:37:27] <mexus> работает)
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[22:10:07] <nighthawk_home> гыгы щас вдруг десктоп перестал включаться ... вынул мать - работает - вставил обратно - нет
[22:10:18] <nighthawk_home> сижу вот думаю что сделать
[22:11:10] <nighthawk_home> похоже на то что коротит на корпус
[22:11:17] <nighthawk_home> но вот какого хрена ...
[22:11:32] <nighthawk_home> вчера то всё работало
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[22:23:17] <mexus> блин, я сначала подумал ты отключил мать... и всё работает О_о
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[22:28:57] <tonn> а в каком пакете dhclient лежит?
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[22:59:54] <nighthawk_home> да надо прокладочки для болтиков искать походу
[23:00:13] <nighthawk_home> билн пол квартиры перерыл ... неужели выкинул
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[23:19:21] <fido> nighthawk_home: подстриги её кусачками, в местах предполагаемого замыкания
[23:19:54] <fido> у меня это постоянная практика, ибо есть дебильнрые корпуса ))
[23:19:56] <mexus> )))
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[23:42:25] <nighthawk_home> да всё уже работает
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[23:43:21] <nighthawk_home> кружок "сделай сам" - синюю изоленту кусочками на места под болтики и прделать дырки
[23:43:56] <nighthawk_home> а корпус дебильным язык е повернётся назвать
[23:44:05] <nighthawk_home> всётаки похож мать
[23:45:06] <nighthawk_home> одна проблема - теперь придётся искать метровый ide кабель :(
[23:45:16] <nighthawk_home> порвал случайно ...
[23:45:27] <nighthawk_home> в трех местах
[23:46:30] <nighthawk_home> можно сидюк пониже переставить но кабель с натяжку тогда
[23:46:59] <nighthawk_home> переходник на сата отпадает - свободных сата не осталось
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