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wWolf has set the subject to: Беседы о дистрибутиве Gentoo Linux. (Linux -- свободная ОС с открытым исходным кодом) || Логи - http://chatlogs.jabber.ru/gentoo@conference.jabber.ru/ || http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/handbook/ - Хэндбук | С Новым Годом!!!
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[06:42:23] <mistiman> здрасьте всем
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[06:42:35] <mistiman> LANG=en_US chroot /mnt/admin/desk/
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[06:42:50] <mistiman> эт как? мысли есть какие-нибудь
[06:42:52] <mistiman> ?
[06:43:05] <Juise> ls -la /bin/bash
[06:43:53] <mistiman> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 761740 Янв 21 02:45 bin/bash
[06:44:01] <Juise> ну или попробуй chroot .... /bin/sh
[06:44:37] <mistiman> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/sh': Permission denied
[06:44:47] <mistiman> та же песня
[06:45:03] <Juise> а ты под кем сидишь?
[06:45:14] <Juise> под рутом?
[06:45:28] <mistiman> шрут делаю под рутом
[06:46:01] <Juise> занятно
[06:46:28] <mistiman> вот и я про тоже
[06:49:32] <mistiman> нашёл, проблема типа "сам дурак")))
[06:49:40] <mistiman> опции монтирования (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime)
[06:51:03] <mistiman> только вот с какой радости он так примонтировал
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[10:34:46] <trawl> LonFas:
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[10:37:00] <LonFas> кто нибудь настраивал палитовскую нвидиа на проограммное снижение вращения кулера ?
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[12:11:32] <alparo> пипл хелп. поломалось переключение раскладки.
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[12:11:44] <alparo> >setxkbmap dvorak,ru
Error loading new keyboard description
[12:11:44] <jsv> переключение раскладки не нужно
[12:12:12] <jsv> нужен scim :)
[12:12:21] <alparo> (EE) Error loading keymap /tmp/server-1.xkm
[12:12:23] <lexa_> scim не нужен ибо глючен
[12:13:01] <alparo> если делать setxkbmap us,ru то все работает
[12:13:50] <alparo> памагиииити. второй день работать не могу
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[12:16:10] <jsv> УМВР
[12:16:13] <jsv> чем ломал-то?
[12:16:27] <jsv> lexa_: а конкретнее про глючен?
[12:17:00] <alparo> обновил систему всего-лишь8(
[12:17:01] <lexa_> jsv, с приложениями на tk/tcl глючит, то не переключает язык то tkabber роняет
[12:17:29] <lexa_> и это не только с tkabber, а еще и с gorilla, там он вообще не даёт ничего вводить
[12:18:38] <lexa_> больше глюков я не заметил
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[12:54:30] <alparo> вроде починил
[12:54:33] <alparo> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru"
Option "XkbVariant" "dvorak,winkeys"
[12:59:09] <jsv> lexa_: гмм... я думал, это была проблема тк, которую давно починили
заблуждался, значит... у меня сейчас активно используемых прикладух на тк не осталось :)
[13:04:11] <lexa_> jsv, боюсь это никогда не починят
[13:04:13] <mistiman> что есть scim и нафига он нужен, просветите :-$
[13:04:31] <alparo> +1
[13:04:51] <Mr.Az> поддерживаю
[13:04:56] <mistiman> в бубунте помнится видел по дефолту, но он мне только мешался
[13:05:13] <mistiman> всё время переключал раскладку не пойми куда и зачем
[13:05:24] <lexa_> mistiman, это для онемешников, чтоб японские буквы печатать
[13:05:43] <mistiman> понял, отстал)))
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[13:06:23] <mistiman> тогда другой вопрос, как восстановит линковку у packages?
[13:06:39] <mistiman> что-то типа revdep-rebuilt для packages
[13:06:44] <jsv> mistiman: ответ от lexa_ несколько неполный, но, в целом, правильный
[13:06:49] <jsv> кстати, что такое аниме? :)
[13:07:16] <mistiman> спроси у бсдяшников)))
[13:07:56] <L29Ah> mistiman: никак
[13:08:27] <mistiman> значит остаётся парсит логи emerge и юзать quickpkg
[13:08:43] <mistiman> плохо....
[13:09:27] <L29Ah> имхо, packages нужны только в случае зоопарка компов
[13:09:56] <mistiman> так и есть + в локалку городскую бинхост смотрит
[13:10:21] <L29Ah> иначе получаем всякие развлечения типа проблем с линковкой при разных версиях либ на клиентах и кривые юзы
[13:10:28] <jsv> ну, ещё если что-то нетривиальное собирал... у меня, например, долго gcc 2.9x сидел пакаджем, уже
после того, как его из портажа вынесли :)
[13:10:44] <L29Ah> его вынесли? :)
[13:11:09] <L29Ah> [U] sys-devel/gcc
Available versions:
(2.95) *2.95.3-r9 ~*2.95.3-r10!s
[13:11:31] <jsv> гмм... вроде, выносили... или хардмаскали :)
[13:11:42] <jsv> во всяком случае, он не собирался :)
[13:13:25] <L29Ah> а зачем он, если не секрет?
[13:13:27] <mistiman> умеющие sed есть?))) как убрать кадые n количество символов в начале строки и в конце строки?
[13:13:43] <mistiman> каждые*
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[13:14:30] <L29Ah> s/...\(.*\).../\1/
[13:14:48] <L29Ah> где кол-во точек спереди и сзади - n :)
[13:15:01] <mistiman> спс
[13:20:22] <jsv> L29Ah: нужен был, когда я с меркури игрался... оно тройкой тогда не собиралось
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[13:37:07] <XMe> здарова ребята... я пользуюсь убунтой, подумываю перейти на генту, какой дистрибутив посоветуете? и стоит ли с убунты переходить сразу на генту?
[13:37:26] <jsv> хороший вопрос, содержательный :)
[13:37:28] <O01eg> стоит
[13:37:49] <jsv> какой дистрибутив чего? генты? :)
[13:37:53] <XMe> да
[13:37:55] <Mr.Az> прям из убунты установить генту ^__^
[13:38:04] <jsv> а какие бывают? :)
[13:38:20] <O01eg> Gentoo, он так и называется
[13:38:23] <XMe> я не знаю :) по этому и спрашиваю :)
[13:38:26] jsv доводилось ставить генту прямо из кноппикса :)
[13:38:39] <jsv> XMe: gentoo -- это и есть название дистрибутива
[13:38:52] <XMe> Calculate Linux Desktop 9.2 <http://www.gentoo.ru/node/13633>
[13:38:57] <XMe> а это что?
[13:39:12] <O01eg> Забей, лучше основной
[13:39:35] <Mr.Az> XMe: вся прелесть в хндбуке ))
[13:39:36] <lispnik> Человека интересует, какой брать инсталлятор...
[13:39:43] <jsv> без понятия... лайвцд какой-то, судя по всему
[13:39:53] <jsv> дык, руки
[13:39:57] <jsv> и хэндбук
[13:40:27] <jsv> хотя графический я как-то пробовал, он, в общем-то, адекватен
если не считать попыток запустить генкернель
[13:40:34] <XMe> а где хэндбук этот взять?
[13:41:08] <XMe> кстати генту на kde или на gnome?
[13:41:11] <Mr.Az> XMe: на офсайте и на диске загрузочном
[13:41:31] <XMe> ок
[13:41:35] <jsv> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/handbook/
[13:41:44] <Mr.Az> XMe: на твой выбор. гента тебя в этом не ограничивает )) как и любой другой, наверное, дистрибутив
[13:41:49] <jsv> хотя лучше /en/, если на en читаешь :)
[13:41:58] <O01eg> у меня графический инсталлятор не пошел, nv дрова не заработали
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[14:22:38] <lash> пиплы, logrotate какой-нить умеет ротейтить логи не по дням, а по размеру?
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[18:14:18] <Toburetoid> hmm..
[18:15:36] <alparo> hmmm
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[18:25:05] <MarSoft_eee> XMe: я например вообще не использую ни гнома ни кде, только awesome ...
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[18:52:41] <maquefel> сраный icq
[18:52:50] <MarSoft_eee> +1
[18:53:17] <maquefel> ни у кого ebuild'a на pidgin не завалялось?
[18:53:22] <maquefel> с последним патчем
[18:53:39] <ZeVoluciON> используй прокси
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[19:00:55] <maquefel> это какие например?
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[20:46:40] <Brainsburn> А ты! Попросил удалить твой ICQ аккаунт? http://www.icq.com/forums/index.php?act=view_topic&group_id=10084&topic_id=204617
[20:48:50] <MarSoft_eee> Brainsburn: прикольно ... :)
[20:49:37] <MarSoft_eee> и что, удаляют?
[20:51:01] <maquefel> вряд ли
[20:52:01] <Brainsburn> ну эт какбэ флешмоб =)
[20:52:24] <maquefel> в связи с последней сменой протокола?
[20:52:58] <Brainsburn> ага
[20:53:02] <Brainsburn> *с последними
[20:53:07] <maquefel> заебали
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[20:53:18] <Brainsburn> :D
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[20:53:27] <maquefel> мдя
[20:54:00] <maquefel> как бы пароль из пидгина вытащить
[20:54:08] <maquefel> я и мыльник забыл :-D
[20:54:32] <Brainsburn> а там нету "сменить пароль"?
[20:54:41] <Brainsburn> если пидгин его помнит
[20:55:17] <Brainsburn> он хранит пароли в accounts.xml
[20:55:22] <MarSoft_eee> надо бы бот такой сделать, чтобы повесить на него свой асечный номер, чтобы он всем пишущим отвечал твой jabber-id и как в jabbere зарегистрироваться :)
[20:55:24] <lexa_> maquefel, .purple/accounts.xml посмотри
[20:56:14] <maquefel> of
[20:56:15] <maquefel> ща
[20:56:28] <maquefel> MarSoft_eee хорошая идея
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[20:58:26] <maquefel> так у нас хоть что нить ща держит протокол новый?
[20:58:35] <maquefel> кроме официального клиента?
[20:58:43] <O01eg> pyicq.aftar.ru
[20:58:48] <maquefel> lexa_ пасиб
[20:59:22] <MarSoft_eee> O01eg: сейчас все ломанутся на туда... :)
[20:59:34] <maquefel> не пашет
[20:59:47] <O01eg> бывает )
[21:00:09] <O01eg> http://jabberworld.info/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BF%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_Jabber
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[21:01:40] <Alek-Z> maquefel: след раз бан
[21:01:52] <maquefel> сорь
[21:02:01] <maquefel> забыл что тут нельзя
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[21:33:52] <mistiman> maquefel спасибо, пашет)))) и банить незачем)))
[21:35:12] <mistiman> а ещё пашет gentoo.ru но пользоваться им могут только зарегистрированые пользователи этого сервера /*надеюсь это не реклама*/
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[21:42:25] <maquefel> мгм
[21:42:29] <maquefel> настроил транспорт
[21:42:33] <maquefel> тока непонятно пашет или нет
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[21:43:52] <maquefel> понятно - не пашет
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[21:44:04] <maquefel> седня займусь переводом знакомых в жаббер
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[23:04:15] <MarSoft_eee> помогите, xterm не компилится.
виснет на /bin/sh ./minstall.sh "/usr/bin/install -c -m 644" ./xterm.man /var/tmp/portage/x11-terms/xterm-239/image//usr/share/man/man1/`echo xterm| sed 's,x,x,'`.1 /usr/share/X11/app-defaults
лог: http://dpaste.com/116634/
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