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[05:47:55] <Juise> уважаемые нужен совет
[05:48:10] <Juise> есть машина на gentoo на scsi дисках
[05:49:37] <Juise> ядро собрано на основе дефолтного с livecd средствами genkernel, в grub прописано все по документации, в строку initrd добавлена директива real_root=/dev/sda1 так же как и к ядру
[05:50:46] <Juise> при загрузке системы выдается сообщение что устройство не может быть подмантировано как корень, хотя если рукам и потом ввести /dev/sd1 загрузка дальше идет нормально, где грабли, куда копать?
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[07:28:07] <TeiSinTai> Juise: если система в принципе грузится - посмотри /var/log/kern.log на предмет того, как твоё ядро видит диск до запуска udev
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[08:25:44] <Juise> ок, шас гляну
[08:29:09] <Juise> TeiSinTai: нету файлика /var/log/kern.log
[08:29:21] <Juise> как сказать ядру чтоб он логировался?
[08:39:23] <Juise> кстати мне сказали что проблема м.б. из за того что у меня в корне используется уче3
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[08:56:33] <L29Ah> ре
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[12:32:32] <Juise> блин, народ ну подскажите чего делать.
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[12:36:51] <L29Ah> ы?
[12:37:36] <L29Ah> генькёрнель - зло :)
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[12:38:19] <Juise> вы не ыкайтен а помогите
[12:38:22] <Juise> +)
[12:38:29] <Juise> я уже все перепробовал
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[12:38:51] <jsv> так всё, что можно сказать про генкернель, уже сказано :)
[12:39:06] <Juise> ну хорошо, как мне тогда быть?
[12:39:08] <Juise> что делать?
[12:39:21] <L29Ah> не использовать genkernel :)
[12:39:36] <Juise> блин, ребят ну давайте серьезно по темеп
[12:39:43] <Juise> я же не спрашивал чем компилить
[12:39:48] <jsv> ну, вместо /var/... посмотреть dmesg
[12:39:58] <Juise> уже 10 раз
[12:40:04] <Juise> и kern
[12:40:12] <Juise> и даже message
[12:40:30] <Juise> может ли быть ошибка в fstab?
[12:40:45] <Juise> ну или скажем такие грабли из за ext3
[12:40:56] <L29Ah> ну, покажи fstab про /
[12:41:03] <alparo> может этот раздел должен быть как-то сначала инициализирован перед тем как его маунтить. это если проводить аналогию с luks
[12:41:07] <jsv> да рут, вроде как, не из fstab монтируется... первый раз, во всяком случае
[12:41:28] <jsv> из-за ext3 может быть, если в ядре ext3, как модуль
[12:41:43] <jsv> но тут дело кончилось бы кернель паником
[12:41:57] <Juise> нет не как модуль
[12:41:59] <L29Ah> дык, это-ж генкернел, он должен сам его подгрузить, и скорее всего делает это
[12:42:01] <L29Ah> ы
[12:42:14] <Juise> /dev/sda1 / ext2 defaults 0 1
/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/sda3 /usr ext3 rw 0 2
/dev/sda5 /var ext3 rw 0 2
/dev/sda6 /tmp ext3 rw 0 2
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro 0 0
#/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto 0 0
# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
# use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
[12:42:42] <L29Ah> > хотя если рукам и потом ввести /dev/sd1 загрузка дальше идет нормально
[12:42:47] <Juise> да
[12:42:56] <L29Ah> ты уже определись, sd1 или sda1 ^)
[12:43:08] <jsv> дык там ext2 или ext3?
оно, конечно, как ext2 должно всё равно монтироваться...
[12:43:09] <Juise> sda1
[12:43:10] <L29Ah> а ещё у тебя там написано ext2
[12:43:29] <Juise> я просто с ext2 пробовал ещё
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[12:44:08] jsv как-то с трудом верится, что ни в одном логе нет совсем-совсем ничего... должно быть :)
[12:44:34] <Juise> ммм paste.org.ru?
[12:44:37] <L29Ah> не должно быть
[12:44:45] <L29Ah> не примонтировали ведь :)
[12:44:48] <jsv> покаж строчку из menu.lst
[12:45:04] <jsv> L29Ah: а буфер dmesg на что? :)
[12:45:48] <Juise> title Gentoo Linux 2.6.27-r8
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda1 vga=0x317 udev doscsi
initrd /boot/initrd real_root=/dev/sda1
title Gentoo Linux (Stable)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/bzImage_stable root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda1 vga=0x317 udev doscsi
initrd /boot/initrd_stable real_root=/dev/sda1
[12:46:14] <L29Ah> ещё если это какой-нибудь хитрый криворейд, то может быть он к тому моменту ещё не успевает появиться :)
[12:46:40] <Juise> есть мысль накатить туда скажем убунту
[12:46:48] <Juise> и попробовать погрузиться с нее
[12:46:56] <L29Ah> покажи dmesg :)
[12:47:00] <Juise> и посмотреть как она будет себя вести
[12:47:05] <jsv> L29Ah: а откуда он тогда грузится вообще? :)
[12:47:20] <L29Ah> jsv: я об этом не подумал :D
[12:48:12] <Juise> http://paste.org.ru/?37ilyb
[12:48:14] <Juise> dmesg
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[12:48:38] <jsv> при таком конфиге можно, наверное, и без initrd грузиться
[12:49:03] <Juise> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods SCSI Media Changer driver v0.25 Driver 'ch' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[12:49:05] <Juise> ?
[12:49:22] <L29Ah> это не тебе :)
[12:50:40] <Juise> мужики я уже с этим весь день сижу +(
[12:51:14] <L29Ah> EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
это ты руками монтировал?
[12:52:02] <jsv> похоже на то
[12:52:55] <L29Ah> тогда нужны логи инита, которых нет :)
[12:53:03] <Juise> я руками ничего не монтировал
[12:53:18] <L29Ah> ыыы
[12:53:21] <Juise> я лишь при загрузке ему указываю куда монтировать корень
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[12:54:11] <L29Ah> покажи /proc/mounts сразу после ругани
[12:54:48] <Juise> 5 мин
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[13:06:51] <Juise> вообщем в /proc/mounts есть sysfs procfs и rootfs
[13:07:03] <Juise> эт до ругани
[13:07:12] <Juise> после как я говорю /dev/sda1
[13:07:21] <Juise> маунтит все из fstab
[13:07:48] <L29Ah> rootfs в ro или rw?
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[13:08:47] <L29Ah> т.е. после ругани не говори ему, где рут, а спрыгни в консольку и спроси /proc/mountd
[13:08:48] <L29Ah> *s
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[13:10:08] <Juise> все в rw
[13:10:30] <Juise> и даже позволяет на себя в temp маунтить разделы с /dev/sda*
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[13:11:37] <L29Ah> чё-то я глючу
[13:11:46] <Juise> ?
[13:12:16] <L29Ah> я правильно понимаю, что он орёт, что не может примонтировать рут, и при этом у него и так уже всё как надо смонтировано и работает?
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[13:14:07] <Juise> мммм, он грузит модули через initrd. потом говорит activating mdev, determinign root device, block device /dev/sda1 is not valid root device, could not find a root block device in .
[13:16:13] <Juise> потом я ему указываю /dev/sda1 и загрузка идет дальше
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[17:37:30] <alparo> почему у меня вдруг перестало работать smbtree -NS ? тот же ноут в той же локалке. систему только переставил. но конфиги самбы теже перенес
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[19:07:31] <lash> ку!
[19:07:43] <MarSoft_eee> ?
[19:07:52] <lash> прывет
[19:08:05] <MarSoft_eee> .
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[20:04:58] <Agamestor> all:
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[20:06:47] <MarSoft_eee> Люди, вопрос не по теме но всё же:
Отчего может такое быть, что комп вырубается ни с того ни с сего (раньше бывало только под windoze'xp, тепкрь и под линухом:( ), и не включается, помогает только вынимание процессора и памяти?..
[20:07:17] <ZeVoluciON> Oo
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[20:07:43] <Agamestor> Смотри память, было у меня такое. Одна планка оказалась битая.
[20:07:43] <MarSoft_eee> процессор athlon xp 2500+ (1900mhz, замедлен до 1600)
[20:07:47] <lexa__> MarSoft_eee, железо -> каюк ?
[20:08:10] <MarSoft_eee> а сейчас вот даже перетыкание памяти не помогает.
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[20:10:18] <MarSoft_eee> причём, даже без процессора и памяти не включается. Порядок действий такой:
- вынимаю провод питания
- вынимаю проц и память
- втыкаю провод питания
- нажимаю кнопку "вкл"
Actual results: кулер процессорный заводится и сразу останавливается (немного вертится по инерции и всё)
Expected results: кулер должен вертется, и комп должен пищать т.к. нет памяти
[20:10:44] <MarSoft_eee> и после этого чтобы заново запустить надо провод питания вынуть и воткнуть заново
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[20:16:42] <MarSoft_eee> lexa__: раньше удавалось запустить заново.
[20:17:37] <MarSoft_eee> вообще по симптомам похоже на перегрев процессора, но с другой стороны - на блок питания или ещё что-то...
[20:18:36] <MarSoft_eee> материнка asrock k7vt4a-pro
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