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Thursday, January 29, 2009< ^ >
zet has set the subject to: Поздравляем General-Beck с Днём Рождения!!! (B) || Bombus -- Jabber-клиент для мобильных устройств || Текущая версия: 0.7.1429 *НОВОГОДНЯЯ* || САЙТ: http://bombus-im.org/ || Help: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus/help || НАСТРОЙКА ICQ: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/howto/howto_icq || Правила поведения: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus_conference || Bombus-ng: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus/pocketpc || Онлайн-конструктор: http://bombus-im.org/c/ || ПОБОЛТАТЬ: bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru || Привет, Nokia 5800 :) || offtopic: http://mobile.yandex.ru/online || горячее исправление: в 1429 снова работают закладки
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[00:04:49] <spine> stats jabber.ru
[00:04:51] <aasi> spine: Statistic:
users/all-hosts/total: 85628 users
users/all-hosts/online: 10846 users
users/total: 562335 users
users/online: 10619 users
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[00:11:05] <Mura> Драсти... ;-)
[00:11:05] Mura has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[00:51:49] <аlеksiss> Тык toon
[00:51:50] aasi постукал toon головой апстенку
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[00:54:25] <toon> :-O \
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[01:09:42] <Lexa-S> Квартира будущего с мозгами Windows
Я вошел в свою квартиру. Вернее, попытался войти. Уже который раз происходила такая фигня: я открываю дверь, при этом уже в течение полугода выслушиваю фразу: "Ваш ключ устарел и будет сменен через две недели". Ключ, правда, не меняется, но ладно… Потом система пропускает меня в коридор и "Касперский" начинает бить тревогу. Этот бардак обычно заканчивается сообщением: "Приложение "Дверь" совершило нед
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[01:12:30] <asci> Квартира будущего с мозгами Linux
Я вошел в свою. Дверь отвалилась.. Окна у меня треугольные, все никак не могут доделать, но ничего, они тоже свет пропускают. Холодильник иногда нагревается до 1000 градусов, когда не хватает электричества
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[01:13:50] <Lexa-S> asci: :-)))
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[01:16:47] <asci> Lexa-S: сам арчем юзаюсь
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[01:29:15] <nа> Хм, здесь уже и шутят ;-|
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[01:55:41] <KMV> А как анимированный сплеш реализовали? :-O
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[01:58:10] <nа> Программным путем судя по всему
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[02:02:55] <toon> !спать однако надо
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[04:49:01] Furious Angel has been kicked: используйте официальную версию Bombus, http://bombus-im.org/
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[08:46:20] zet has set the subject to: Bombus -- Jabber-клиент для мобильных устройств || Текущая версия: 0.7.1429 *НОВОГОДНЯЯ* || САЙТ: http://bombus-im.org/ || Help: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus/help || НАСТРОЙКА ICQ: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/howto/howto_icq || Правила поведения: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus_conference || Bombus-ng: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/bombus/pocketpc || Онлайн-конструктор: http://bombus-im.org/c/ || ПОБОЛТАТЬ: bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru || Привет, Nokia 5800 :) || offtopic: http://mobile.yandex.ru/online || горячее исправление: в 1429 снова работают закладки
[08:46:30] <zet> !подъём
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[09:06:52] <Флинт> zet: проверил сегодня.. полностью обновил исходники с нуля.. при загрузке свн-клиент пишет ревизию 1436, а при компиляции прописывается 1432..
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[09:15:24] <zet> Флинт: какая-то ошибка у тебя или карма такая
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[09:15:31] <aasi> zet: zet uses Bombus 0.7.1436M-Zlib--zet (en) // MIDP2 Platform=Nokia6233/05.60
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[09:28:05] <свeтa> звонитe мaльчишки :-*
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[10:00:41] <zzzolushka> я.онлайн О_о для смартов О_О с ума сойти
[10:00:51] <Торчёк> zzzolushka: [::]||||||||||||||||||||[::]
[10:01:09] <zzzolushka> Торчёк: дык я в топике и прочла.. О_о я ток узнала
[10:01:10] <aasi> Даа, топик всему голова!!!
[10:01:24] <zzzolushka> Торчёк: надо будет вечером качнуть..какие отзывы?
[10:01:28] <zzzolushka> а кто аффтар?
[10:01:32] <zzzolushka> не Евгс ли?
[10:01:34] <zzzolushka> О-о
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[11:07:31] <Нaталия> что на symbyan6 поставить можно? я имею ввиду бомбус
[11:08:26] <MaSу> можно, я этих телефонах поддержка Java тоже есть
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[11:09:22] <Нaталия> MaSу: ты думаешь на нокиа QD jar пойдет?
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[11:09:48] <MaSу> Нaталия: оффсайт бомбуса тут: Онлайн-конструктор: http://bombus-im.org/c/
[11:10:13] <Нaталия> MaSу: я знаю, но пойдели?
[11:10:14] <MaSу> Нaталия: закачивайте в телефон только оффициальные версии, а не самопальные поделки
[11:10:19] <MaSу> Нaталия: пойдет
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[11:57:28] <Mitia4> Научите сделать РРС через бомбу плиз :-)
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[11:58:24] <MaSу> Mitia4: подключите себе rss транспорт, вбейте в поиске то что нужно и добавьте rss ленту себе в ростер
[11:58:32] <MaSу> wtf rss_transports
[11:58:33] <aasi> MaSу: zet says that rss_transports = rss.jrudevels.org
[11:58:57] <Lost> Привет всем. Вопрос: на VGA девайсах в java-версии можно как-то увеличить значки? шрифт получилось (через настройки ява-машины), но значки остались прежнего размера
[11:59:31] <Fallen Angel> Нарисовать бОльшие значки
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[12:00:11] <Lost> ну это понятно, что можно увеличить скин в 2 раза, я думал есть галочка какая-нить. давно не следил за разработкой.
[12:00:36] <Mitia4> MaSу: а это как сделать больше смайлов
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[12:01:30] <MaSу> Mitia4: Онлайн-конструктор: http://bombus-im.org/c выберите в конструкторе себе смайлы какие хотите
[12:02:46] <Mitia4> MaSу: а можно скачать какое то дополнение
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[12:03:09] <MaSу> Mitia4: не понял вас
[12:03:22] <MaSу> скачивайте официальную версию бомбус
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[12:03:49] <ribko-psihopatko> MaSу: я в конструкторе себе поставила смаилы другие, а в итоге полу4ились стандартные....
[12:04:16] <MaSу> ribko-psihopatko: а у меня всё нормально выбирается, какие выбираю, те и получаются
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[12:04:46] <zet> Lost: :-O
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[12:05:05] <Mitia4> MaSу: вот у меня и так офицалка
[12:05:18] <ribko-psihopatko> MaSу: незнаю... И на 3аставке картинка не та полу4илась...
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[12:05:31] <MaSу> ribko-psihopatko: еще раз соберите бомбус
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[12:07:50] <ribko-psihopatko> MaSу: да в лом уже) работает и ладно)
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[12:08:55] <MaSу> ribko-psihopatko: ну это неверная позиция по типу "работает и ладно", нужно постоянно улучшать и работать над собой))))
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I shall not come more to this conference...
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[12:16:04] адимптцы has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[12:22:48] <Мохнатый> А в бомбе как то можно проверить как давно был контакт в сети?
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[12:54:52] <Mitia4> Получилось :-)
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[13:13:12] <Lost> что нужно сделать чтобы файл принять бомбусом последним (java)? значок вверху там где профиль появляется, а что выбрать и откуда ума не приложу
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[13:14:39] <Флинт> Lost: доступ к фс дать..
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[13:14:46] <zzzolushka> wtf bombus_f
[13:14:46] <aasi> zzzolushka: I don't know
[13:14:54] <zzzolushka> wtf bombus_ft
[13:14:57] <aasi> zzzolushka: boteg says that bombus_ft = ТОЛЬКО для Zlib-версии.
Отправка: навести курсор на контакт->Actions->Send file->Menu->Select file->выбрать путь к файлу.
Приём: зайти в Tools->File Transfers->выбрать файл->Menu->навести курсор на поле Save to->Menu->Select path->выбрать путь для сохранения файла->Select->OK.
Следить за приёмом/передачей файлов в Tools->File Transfers.
[13:15:09] <zzzolushka> !v Lost
[13:15:09] <aasi> zzzolushka: Lost uses QIP Infium 9022 // Windows XP
[13:15:41] <vladimuz> не гаснет подсветка кнопкой *, телефон - моторола ЕМ30
[13:16:25] <Lost> спасибо
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[13:44:24] <Felisa> скажите пожалуста как установит bombus, я его скачала, а установочного файла не нахожу. Ставлю на винду 6
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[13:44:43] <Торчёк> распаковывай и запускай
[13:45:16] <Felisa> Торчёк: распаковала, нет фойла чтоб запустить
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[13:45:27] <Торчёк> O_O
[13:45:27] <aasi> о_О
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[13:45:34] <Торчёк> у всех есть, а у тебя нет?
[13:45:53] <Felisa> получается я блондинко((
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[13:46:41] <toon> А как называется файл который ты скачала?
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[13:47:26] <Felisa> bombus-ng.zip
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[13:47:43] <toon> А какие файлы появляются после распаковки?
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[13:50:04] <Felisa> папки и gsgetfile.dll copying.txt bombus.exe
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[13:50:37] <Lost> bombus.exe запускай, только на кпк
[13:51:01] <Felisa> Lost: не хочет
[13:51:17] <Lost> Felisa: что пишет?
[13:51:56] <Felisa> Lost: ничего, просто звук когда ему что-то не нравится и ничего
[13:52:20] <Lost> Felisa: а аппарат какой?
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[13:54:00] <Felisa> Lost: HTC P5500
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[13:55:47] <Lost> Felisa: не знаю тогда.. думаю что-то с ПО аппарата, сложно сказать
[13:56:54] <Felisa> Lost: да вроде больше глюков не было... вчера новый qip ставила, не ругался... мож попробывать чего-нить еще скачать?
[13:58:25] <Lost> Felisa: вообще бомбус для wm далёк от совершенства. поставил себе его на java (аппарат Asus P750), несколько поудобнее пользоваться.
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[13:59:24] <Felisa> Lost: ээээ... а можно для тупого ума объясньть:-[
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[14:00:36] <Lost> Felisa: я имею в виду версию на java, которые отсюда http://bombus-im.org/index.php?page=download качаются. но всё равно на кпк без стилуса и в версии на яве, и в ng не обойтись.. я не могу по крайней мере
[14:01:38] <Lost> в этом смысле та что на яве удобнее, можно всё клавишами сделать
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[14:02:43] <Felisa> ща попробую ее скачать
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[14:06:30] <Felisa> Felisa: что из этого всего лучше скачать?
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[14:07:00] <Felisa> Lost: что из этого всего лучше скачать?
[14:07:06] <MaSу> Felisa: попробуй сначала на кпк поставить
[14:07:54] <Lost> Felisa: в разделе "тестовые версии" MIDP-2.0 ZLib 0.7.1429M
[14:08:40] <MaSу> не майтесь вы фигней
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[14:08:56] <MaSу> вот тут лучше соберите: Онлайн-конструктор: http://bombus-im.org/c/
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[14:09:13] <MaSу> Disаbler: подскажи Felisa как на кпк бомбус поставить
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[14:09:55] <Disаbler> Felisa: какая версия венды?
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[14:10:51] <Felisa> Disаbler: 6
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[14:13:22] <Disаbler> Felisa: при установке/запуске выскакивает окно "приложение из непроверенного источника" или что то наподобие?
[14:13:47] <Felisa> Disаbler: вообще файла запуска нет
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[14:14:23] <Disаbler> Felisa: я не про bombus.exe, а вообще. при установке любого приложения.
[14:15:07] <Felisa> Disаbler: не вообще да, вчера qip ставила так писал
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[14:18:11] <Disаbler> Felisa: надо поставить sktools (можно даже демо-версию) и во вкладке "system tweak" (системные твики) поставить галочку "не проверять сертификаты". это первое. второе, когда распаковывался архив не писалоли ошибок? ты запускаешь уже распакованный exe, или просто зашла в архив и пробуешь запустить?
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[14:19:19] <Felisa> Disаbler: я распаковала, ошибок не писал
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[14:25:10] <Disаbler> Felisa: странно. у меня тоже htc c wm6. а чем java версия не устраивает?
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[14:25:44] <Felisa> Disаbler: не пробовала еще
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[14:27:15] <Disаbler> Felisa: советую. на много функциональнее. но требует java машину и достаточно много памяти.
[14:28:33] <Felisa> Disаbler: память самого телефона?
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[14:29:44] <Lost> 9.22мб жрёт при запуске, жесть..
[14:29:48] <Disаbler> Felisa: да. оперативную память кпк. но при этом он ест память всегда одинаково и утечки памяти практически нет.
[14:30:02] <Disаbler> Lost: смотря какая jvm
[14:30:11] <Lost> jbed 5.1
[14:30:55] <Felisa> *SCRATCH*
[14:31:08] <Disаbler> Lost: хм. сам jbed под себя забирает около 3мб + 8мб на heap. так что 9.22 - это ещё мало.
[14:31:27] <Lost> Disаbler: ясно
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[14:33:13] <Disаbler> wtf kpk_jbed
[14:33:14] <aasi> Disаbler: I don't know
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[14:33:19] <Disаbler> wtf jbed
[14:33:22] <aasi> Disаbler: I don't know
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[14:33:44] <Disаbler> цwtf bombus_jbed
[14:33:54] <Disаbler> wtf bombus_jbed
[14:33:55] <aasi> Disаbler: I don't know
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[14:35:08] <Disаbler> dfn jbed=эмулятор Esmertec Java Jbed 20081016.2.1. для vga (неплохо смотрится) и др.
http://stream.ucoz.ru/load/3-1-0-39
http://stream.ucoz.ru/pily/ppc/Jbed20081016.2.1.rar [[ 825kb ]]
http://file.dimonvideo.ru/uploader/programmy-kpk/169193_jbed20081016.2..rar.zip [[ 825kb ]]
[14:35:08] <aasi> Disаbler: Saved
[14:35:31] <MaSу> Disаbler: а какой офсайт этой jvm?
[14:36:47] <Disаbler> MaSу: ща не скажу. основа старая и её умельцы допиливают. сделали 3d и bluetooth api
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[14:37:39] <Lost> на asusmobile.ru есть JBed 20080912.5.1 от Sorg с фиксами, плюс разлочены все медиа-форматы
[14:37:53] <MaSу> самопал значит
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[14:39:24] <Disаbler> MaSу: да. но он один из лучших.
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[14:42:07] <Мишек> Как создать свою конфу
[14:42:24] <Felisa> Disаbler: оно открылось!!!!
[14:42:34] <Disаbler> Мишек: с какой целью? какая тема конфы будет?
[14:42:50] <Disаbler> Felisa: молодец. в чём было дело?
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[14:43:17] <Felisa> Disаbler: да фиг его знает, послу 4 скачивания все путем
[14:43:21] <MaSу> wtf new_room
[14:43:23] <aasi> MaSу: zet. says that new_room = подумайте (!!!), нужна ли Вам новая или проще зайти в существующую (wtf bombus_conference). Создать комнату - это зайти в несуществующую, а описание конфигуратора комнат Bombus'а здесь: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/jabber/muc Установить тему: <написать её в сообщении> -- меню -- установить тему
[14:43:37] <Felisa> теперь бы еще разобраться что к чему ))
[14:43:50] <Disаbler> !v Felisa
[14:43:51] <aasi> Disаbler: Felisa uses QIP Infium 9020 // Windows XP
[14:43:59] zet не узнаёт Lost
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[14:44:18] <Disаbler> Felisa: не сложнее qip. ;)
[14:44:29] <Lost> zet: почему?
[14:44:59] <Felisa> Disаbler: а там другая регистрация? или что?
[14:45:15] <Felisa> да...с английским у меня туго...
[14:45:58] <Disаbler> Felisa: нет. зачем тебе что то регать. просто введи jid, и пароль. потом ставь online статус и всё.
[14:46:01] <zet> Lost: хз
[14:46:08] <MaSу> Felisa: инглиш с 5-го класса изучают, там не межет быть ничего не понятного
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[14:46:21] <Lost> zet: я тебя тоже плохо помню :) сто лет тут не был
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[14:46:36] <Felisa> MaSу: я со второго его учила, толка мало ))
[14:47:15] <Felisa> Disаbler: внимание тупой вопрос : jid это что?
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[14:47:42] <MaSу> Felisa: это Jabber ID вида vasya@jabber.ru или vasya@qip.ru
[14:48:06] <Disаbler> Felisa: jid это xxxx@xxx.ru у тебя цыфры@qip.ru
[14:48:17] <MaSу> Felisa: советую тут почитать вам про джаббер: http://jabberworld.info/
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[14:48:33] <Felisa> MaSу:MaSу тааак
[14:48:41] <Felisa> MaSу: спасибо
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[14:49:08] <MaSу> Felisa: там в деталях расписано всё, только всё прочитай
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[14:50:18] <MaSу> Morozka: реклама в приват!!!
[14:50:25] Morozka has been banned: Реклама. Смерть спамерам!!!
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[14:52:12] <Felisa> я это сделала!!
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[14:52:45] <Felisa> всем огромное спасибо
[14:53:00] <Disаbler> Felisa: незачто.
[14:53:03] <zet> Lost: просто такие вопросы задаёшь, как будто впервые бомбус юзаешь
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[14:53:25] <Felisa> zet: ну вообщето так и есть
[14:53:40] <zet> Felisa: ?
[14:54:01] <Lost> zet: я его не юзал года два :) с тех пор многое изменилось
[14:54:02] <Felisa> zet: первый раз про него даже услышала сегодня
[14:54:13] <zet> Lost: да ладно ;)
[14:54:22] <zet> Felisa: я вообще не с тобой разговариваю
[14:54:24] <Maksimka.> Felisa: он не с тобой говорит )
[14:54:25] <Disаbler> Felisa: в начале сообщения ник. оно не тебе адресовано.
[14:55:06] <Felisa> извеняюсь, просто просматрела:-[
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[14:56:04] <zet> Lost: народ тебя знает как первого пользователя бомбуса
[14:56:09] <zet> :-B
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[14:58:07] <zzzolushka> так вот он какой Лост..
[14:58:15] <Lost> zet: я думал все забыли уже, столько лет :)
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[14:58:23] <MaSу> да, жалкий новичек :-D
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[14:58:58] <Lost> вообще я второй пользователь :) первый разработчик
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[14:59:16] <Торчёк> Lost: разработчик не считается %)
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[15:00:41] <Disаbler> бгг. первый после бога :D
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[15:06:29] <zet> Lost: на сайте и в статьях твоё имя упоминается :)
[15:06:42] <zet> даже на скриншотах в хелпе
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[15:07:31] <Lost> zet: капля в море..
[15:07:33] <zet> Lost: http://www.f1cd.ru/interviews/soft/evgeniya_stahova_evgs_page_1/
[15:08:04] <zet> Получив исходные тексты Колибри, я и Lost выпустили модификацию Colibry 5.6L – для телефонов Siemens. Lost улучшал работу с телефонами Siemens, я работал над ошибками.
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[15:08:27] <zet> Сейчас Lost оказывает помощь в рисовании графики и дизайне нашего сайта.
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[15:08:55] <zet> А помните ли Вы, что написал Вам первый пользователь, когда это было, что является датой старта проекта?
Дата рождения проекта – 5 января 2005 года. Это дата создания первого файла Bombus. Первым пользователем был Lost:
[2005-03-01 01:30:10] Lost: да, ты серьезно взялся :) тоже хочу в этом участвовать
[15:09:18] <zet> Lost: Родина тебя не забудет, сынок! :-D
[15:09:20] <Lost> удивлён :)
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[15:10:52] zet немного пропеарил Lost
[15:10:56] <zet> :-$
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[15:11:28] <zet> Жека тебя слил, по ходу, в прессе, гг
[15:11:41] <Lost> :)))
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[15:12:48] <Lost> он мне не сказал
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[15:15:31] <zet> :-)
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[17:23:29] <aasi> zet: Alias: к=!net www bombus-im.org/c/down/info.php
[17:23:32] <zet>
[17:23:33] <aasi> zet:
(собрали 9367 раз)
[17:23:52] <zet> stats jabber.ru
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[17:23:56] <Лили> Всем хаюшки!!!
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[17:31:03] <red-white> скажите мне мой жид ! пожалуйста .
а то я незнаю как его найти
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[17:32:12] <MaSу> red-white: в настройках акаунта
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[17:33:23] <red-white> ага я уже пробовала туда зайти запорола свой ак , приходится сидеть с ака брата
[17:33:50] <MaSу> а как можно запорото акк?
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[17:34:16] <MaSу> кошечка: реклама в приват!!!
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[17:35:15] <red-white> MaSу>незнаю :-D
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[17:35:30] <MaSу> red-white: тогда и не говори ерунду если не знаешь
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[17:38:17] <red-white> понятно здесь мне не помогут
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[17:38:31] <Торчёк> red-white: [17:29:32]<MaSу> red-white: в настройках акаунта
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[17:39:39] <Lost> если jid забыт и стёрт из настроек то телепаты в отпуске
[17:40:47] <Торчёк> MaSу: хотя... с одной стороны знаишь... есть такие люди, в присутствии которых всё начинает глючить... я с одним таким учился (он не доучился), заходит в комнату и тут же виснет винда с лабой по сетям :) или шурина взять у меня... он один раз мне иксы завесил _напроч_... я сколько раз не пытался воспроизвести, нифига не получилось
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[17:42:15] <MaSу> Ну это называется аура, зашел человек в комнату и у всех все стало не получаться. А особенно плохо если такой человек (некромант или энергетический вампир) ваш начальнег
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[17:42:36] <Торчёк> нее... глючить начинает именно техника/ПО
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[17:43:50] <MaSу> Торчёк: в этом случае нужно вызывать специалистов из Микрософта. Если у вас лицензионная винда, они вам быстро переустановят лицензионную Виндоус Виста :)
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[17:57:19] <aasi> zet: SVN info for http://svn.xmpp.ru/repos/mrim
r118 | zenith | 2009-01-29 05:41:09 +0200 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
* INSTALL: Documented new option "reconnect_timeout".
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[17:59:41] <NIKitosh> может не по адресу обращаюсь, но: как подружить gtalk с асечным транспортом?
[18:00:29] <zet> !м mrim.jabber.ru
[18:00:35] <aasi> zet: Mrim 0.2-svn-20090129 // Linux 2.6.24-1-amd64
[18:00:52] <zet> (Y)
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[18:01:04] <NIKitosh> пробовал несколько транспортов, но все при каждом соединении требуют авторизацию и не подключаются автоматически
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[18:01:51] <MaSу> NIKitosh: у меня подключаются
[18:01:58] <MaSу> wtf bombus_icq
[18:02:00] <aasi> MaSу: robot says that bombus_icq = про подключение и настройку icq-транспорта в Bombus читать здесь: http://bombus-im.org/wiki/howto/howto_icq (отлично читается оперой-мини с телефона)
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[18:02:37] <NIKitosh> я пробовал делать по этой howto, не помогло
[18:03:01] <NIKitosh> всё равно при коннекте транспорт требует авторизации
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[18:03:18] <NIKitosh> ну и подключать его приходится вручную
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[18:03:34] <NIKitosh> с jabber.ru почему-то такого нет...
[18:03:49] <Флинт> NIKitosh: любой транспорт требует авторизации
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[18:06:21] <NIKitosh> это да. но на том же jabber.ru я сделал это только один раз - после ввода юин и пароля. потом всё ок было - он сам автоматом включался при коннекте
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[18:33:46] <аlеksiss> wtf bombus_right_nick
[18:33:48] <aasi> аlеksiss: Банщик says that bombus_right_nick = в этой конференции Запрещены ники, которые начинаются с любых символов кроме букв!
Убедительная просьба сменить ник. Если не знаешь как - запроси в привате у sulci команду wtf bombus_nick.
Кулхацкерские ники категорически запрещены (см. wtf bombus_rights)
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[18:34:23] <аlеksiss> wtf bombus_nick
[18:34:25] <aasi> аlеksiss: аleksiss says that bombus_nick = Чтобы сменить ник:
1. - Идем в Меню -> Аккаунты -> Меню -> Редактировать
В сааамом низу в поле 'ник' пишем нужный ник!
Переподключаемся! (иначе эффекта не будет)
или
2. - Меню -> Конференции
В открывшемся окне в поле 'ник' пишем нужный ник.
Первый метод предпочтительней.
На Bombus ng:
Jabber -- Account -- type new nickname -- Join
[18:34:44] <аlеksiss> wtf кошерный_ник
[18:34:54] @7777777@ has been kicked: убери из ника спецсимволы
[18:34:55] <aasi> аlеksiss: renegade says that кошерный_ник = Если вас просят сменить ник, значит он некошерный
Примеры некошерных ников:
- Кулхацкерские: (></\|<E|^)
- C "крыльями": -~+ник+~-
- С использованием нестандартных символов: ÑìçĶ
- C использованием небуквенных символов: !@#$%^&* итд
- С пробелом: my nick
- Цифровые: 1234567890
- Нецензурные: *CENSORED*
- Оскорбляющие других участников
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Ntr blik lg.(l)

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[18:51:27] <Po3oBblu_CJIoHuK> Памагите...чо такое флэш кодеки? :-D
[18:51:41] <ЖестокаяЛиКа> Извините пожалуйста, вы можете помочь?
[18:52:13] <Po3oBblu_CJIoHuK> а мне самому нужна помощь :-(
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[18:53:47] <aasi> Diman: Chat (Ах у ели, ах у ёлки, ах у ели злые волки! (журнал Мурзилка, 1983-й год))
[18:53:56] <Diman> :))
[18:54:08] <Diman> (Y)
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Есть игра против воли...

[18:57:00] <аlеksiss> ЖестокаяЛиКа: не спрашивай разрешения спросить- сразу пиши вопрос.
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[19:03:24] <аlеksiss> !r
[19:03:24] <aasi> аlеksiss: Ok
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[19:03:48] <аlеksiss> !r Nеfоrmаlkа
[19:03:48] <aasi> аlеksiss: Ok
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[19:04:22] <аlеksiss> wtf bombus-talks
[19:04:24] <aasi> аlеksiss: zеt says that bombus-talks = для новеньких и тех, кто в танке: "кому охота просто потрещать за жизнь, милости просим в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru"
Торчёк (c)
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[19:07:43] <Нaталия> что сделать чтоб при включении транспорты не подключились?
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[19:08:48] <freeworm> Нaталия: регистрацию наверное в них убрать
[19:08:52] <MaSу> Нaталия: авторизацию у них отнять
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[19:09:38] <freeworm> х.з. у меня их нет
[19:09:40] <Нaталия> мне нужно при первом входе. если автовход убрать и авто соединение в настройках поможет?
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[20:25:19] <zet> аlеksiss: при удалении авторизации pyicq-t делает unreg
[20:25:20] <zet> Diman: невидимый не по стандарту :-)
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[20:27:10] <zet> О, новости пришли с membrana.ru@rss.portal-on.ru
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[20:29:22] <аlеksiss> zet: это jit?
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[20:31:20] <аlеksiss> zet: [20:26] Ворон теперь visitor - гг. Одмен на б-т@ здесь девойсен.
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[20:33:17] <аlеksiss> Ворон: исправлено уже. ;-)
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[20:33:35] <Ворон> ))
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[20:34:37] <zet> аlеksiss: я не знаю, у неё jit или нет
[20:34:38] <zet> аlеksiss: непорядок :-)
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[20:34:56] <toon> zet: какой транспарт?
[20:35:08] <аlеksiss> zet: исправил.
[20:35:54] <аlеksiss> zet: у нас оба транспорта не делают анрегу при удалении авторизации.
[20:36:58] <toon> аlеksiss: А зачем её удаалять если приваси есть?
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[20:41:14] <аlеksiss> toon: так какой процент может привасяме пользовацо не накосячив ничего? Единицы. А авторизация- чик!- и нет её. :-)
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[20:41:45] <toon> аlеksiss: Гг пусть учат азбуку общения!
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[20:43:03] <toon> Приваси одна из сильнейших сторон jabber. Так сказать персональная баня в карманном варианте :-)))
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[20:44:36] <аlеksiss> toon: :-D
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[20:44:53] <аlеksiss> toon: в втф. :-D
[20:45:03] <zet> toon: см.выше
[20:45:14] <аlеksiss> wtf приваси
[20:45:14] <paska> аlеksiss: I don't know
[20:45:24] <zet> аlеksiss: какая версия питаськи?
[20:45:39] <аlеksiss> toon: во. Свободно. :-D
[20:45:52] <toon> аlеksiss: (Y)
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[20:46:41] <аlеksiss> zet: 20:44 j-soul> aleksiss: на jit.jabbus.org запущен JIT - Jabber ICQ Transport Trunk (rev. 72M) (Linux 2.6.24-1-686)
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[20:47:00] <zet> toon: приваси не защищают от запросов авторизации
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[20:47:30] <аlеksiss> zet: 20:45 j-soul> aleksiss: на icq.jabbus.org запущен JIT - Jabber ICQ Transport Trunk (rev. 72M) (Linux 2.6.24-1-686)
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[20:48:10] <аlеksiss> zet: оба одинаковы
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[20:52:02] <zet> аlеksiss: ПИТаська
[20:52:03] <zet> На кой мне jit?
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[20:53:46] <Ворон> ого даже тут рекламят
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[20:55:07] <аlеksiss> zet: других нет.
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[20:57:11] <аlеksiss> zet: я и спрашивал, jit там или нет. Я их путаю вечно. Это у нас просто эмчег второй джит обозвал icq.j.org. А от питаськи ещё в начале осени отказались.
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[21:02:39] <Вова Ник> Люди как мне в Бомбе зарегистрировать Аську
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[21:22:49] <paska> аlеksiss: дерьмо
[21:23:02] <аlеksiss> Гг
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[21:33:42] <The nice girl> Всем привет)
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[21:37:51] <аlеksiss> paska: :-? Зевающее какашко? Хм.
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[21:40:53] <a.rybinin> Всем привет!
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[22:06:49] <zet> Ворон: ты притягиваешь спамиров? :-O
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[22:07:19] <zet> tr ru fi робот
[22:07:20] <paska> zet: robotti
[22:07:34] <zet> tr ru fi бот
[22:07:35] <paska> zet: Vene
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[22:08:03] <Ворон> zet: =')
[22:08:06] <zet> tr ru fi убийца
[22:08:07] <paska> zet: salamurhaaja
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[22:10:40] <Питер Петрелли> Имимймимими
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[22:12:56] <VLADIMIR> Список серверов где посмотреть можно?
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[22:14:30] <zet> VLADIMIR: на xmpp.org
[22:14:34] <аlеksiss> wtf jabber_servers_list
[22:14:35] <paska> аlеksiss: zet says that jabber_servers_list = список известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
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[22:15:14] <VLADIMIR> Сибо други!
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[22:15:34] <аlеksiss> zet: добавить бы в втф xmpp.org
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[22:15:54] <аlеksiss> zet: был там раньше- ща нет
[22:15:59] <toon> 404 - Not Found http://jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml
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[22:19:18] <toon> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services вот тут немного
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[22:19:36] <zet> !гг jabber public servers
[22:19:37] <gc()> zet: Services - JabberWiki
18 Dec 2008 ... This page lists the Jabber -based IM services that have registered ... either public or private, take a look at our list of server software. ...
http://www.jabber.org/web/Services
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[22:21:31] <аlеksiss> toon: на xmpp.org, если не ошибаюсь список был в районе 5тыщ серверов
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[22:22:48] <toon> аlеksiss: не нашёл
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[22:23:00] <toon> аlеksiss: у них какаято реарганизация чтоли
[22:23:10] <zet> аlеksiss: toon сидит с компа, а помочь ссылкой не может
[22:23:52] <toon> zet: Вот не нужно кричать
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[22:24:02] <toon> wtf jabber_servers_list
[22:24:03] <gc()> toon: toon says that jabber_servers_list = .
список известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
[22:24:06] <аlеksiss> Гг.
[22:24:40] <Ворон> аlеksiss: чет я на xmpp.org не вижу списка серверов
[22:24:45] <zet> toon: это ты кричал про мегарулезность привасей ;-)
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[22:25:56] <zet> !гг список джаббер серверов
[22:25:57] <gc()> zet: Failed to Google:
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[22:26:14] <zet> gc(): :-D :-D :-D
[22:26:30] <аlеksiss> Ворон: убили шоле. :-?
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[22:26:45] <Ворон> аlеksiss: *dntknw*
[22:26:46] <zet> !гг jabber servers list
[22:26:48] <gc()> zet: Services - JabberWiki
18 Dec 2008 ... This page lists the Jabber -based IM services that have registered ... either public or private, take a look at our list of server software. ...
http://www.jabber.org/web/Services
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[22:28:25] <toon> Гг
[22:28:25] <gc()> бугага
[22:28:40] <toon> нагуглил то же что и на иксэмпэпэ
[22:28:50] <Ворон> аlеksiss: клиенты, библиотеки и все такое, а списка не нахожу*dntknw*
[22:28:52] <toon> Один в один список
[22:29:09] <toon> Вот! А я что кричу
[22:29:17] <toon> А мне никто не верит :-((
[22:29:43] <zet> toon: ищи ещё
[22:30:10] <zet> toon: не выйдешь из-за парты пока не найдёшь (6)
[22:30:47] <toon> :-O Аааа
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[22:31:00] <аlеksiss> Lolly
[22:31:06] <toon> Может всётаки расстрел а?
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[22:31:32] <аlеksiss> toon: да! Три раза!
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[22:32:05] <toon> аlеksiss: Фии поручик!
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[22:32:35] <zet> toon: расстрел через повешение за яйки
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[22:33:30] <аlеksiss> zet: :-O '...ротмистр, а у Вас мама была?...'
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[22:33:39] <Ворон> http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
[22:33:56] <Ворон> их там как собак
[22:33:59] <zet> аlеksiss: :-O
[22:34:06] <аlеksiss> !net www http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
[22:34:08] <gc()> аlеksiss:
JabberES
Jabber/XMPP Server List
also in XML
αlpha
Notes:
If the service Jabber ID is from a different domain than the server, it will
be ignored.
Greyed icons mean that those services arenʼt accesible from external
servers. Most times that indicates that they are only available for users of
that server.
If your server appears offline, please check that your server is accesible
from ejabberd.im server. For other questions, you can contact me
Source code: svn co svn://www.jabberes.org/jabber/servers/trunk/
[...]
[22:34:46] <Ворон> с описаниями поддерживаемых транспортов
[22:35:04] <zet> !w ejabberd.im
[22:35:05] <gc()> zet:
REFRESH(1 sec): http://www.ejabberd.im
You are redirected to out main site. Click here if doesnt work.
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[22:35:10] <аlеksiss> zet: не помню фильм. Вопрос задавался ну жуутко жестокому белогвардейцу. :-D
[22:35:29] <zet> !w http://www.ejabberd.im
[22:35:31] <gc()> zet:
#ejabberd Community Site - All comments ejabberd Community Site RSS
Home
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ejabberd is a Jabber/XMPP instant messaging server, licensed under GPLv2
(Free and Open Source), written in Erlang/OTP. Among other features,
ejabberd is cross-platform, fault-tolerant, clusterable and modular.
This ejabberd community site gathers people which share a common interest in[...]
[22:35:39] <zet> аlеksiss: >:)
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[22:48:42] <toon> wtf jabber_servers_list
[22:48:43] <gc()> toon: toon says that jabber_servers_list = .
список известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world
http://www.ejabberd.im/servers
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[22:50:17] <zet> toon: узнаю мастера (Y)
[22:50:33] <zet> !гг мастер файтер
[22:50:36] <gc()> zet: Кик Файтер / Главная страница
Кик Файтер клуб №1 в Республике Беларусь! Подробности Чемпионата Беаруси здесь. Воспитанница Клуба "Кик файтер " мастер спорта по кикбоксингу Карина ...
http://muaythai.org.by/
[22:50:38] <аlеksiss> (Y)
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[22:51:05] <аlеksiss> Дафай ещё-о-о!
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[22:51:25] <toon> zet: O:-)
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[22:51:58] <toon> аlеksiss: интернет лопнет :-)
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[22:52:45] <zet> Жжы исчо!
[22:53:55] <аlеksiss> toon: не боись! Он из латекса. ;-)
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[22:54:39] <zet> !гг надуть латекс
[22:54:40] <gc()> zet: Failed to Google:
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[22:54:50] <zet> !гг надуть латекс
[22:54:52] <gc()> zet: Как надувать латексные шары | Компания "Шарики"
Как надувать латексные шары. Главная / Публикации / Как надувать латексные шары. Латексовые шары можно надувать воздухом или гелием. ...
http://schariki.ru/articles_24.html
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[23:10:12] <toon> wtf jabber_servers_list
[23:10:14] <gluxi~bot> toon: toon says that jabber_servers_list = .
список известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world
http://www.ejabberd.im/servers
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers
https://web.amessage.eu/usage/hosts
[23:10:21] <toon> ну фсё
[23:10:25] <toon> хватит
[23:10:36] <zet> toon: хва!
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[23:12:31] <zet> toon: (C)
[23:12:46] <zet> Тень короля: (%)
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[23:13:25] <toon> wtf jabber_servers_list
[23:13:27] <gluxi~bot> toon: toon says that jabber_servers_list = .
Список каталогов известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world
http://www.ejabberd.im/servers
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers
https://web.amessage.eu/usage/hosts
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[23:13:40] <toon> Во както так
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[23:14:44] <zet> toon: нее
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[23:15:22] <toon> zet: Чо не? Чё опять не так?
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[23:17:19] <a.rybinin> Vsem privet. Jabber rulit
[23:17:19] a.rybinin has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[23:19:23] <zet> toon: масло масляное
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[23:21:33] <toon> млю
[23:22:18] <toon> wtf jabber_servers_list
[23:22:20] <gluxi~bot> toon: toon says that jabber_servers_list = .
Каталоги известных jabber-серверов:
http://www.jabber.ru/jabservers
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Services
http://www.jtalk.ru/?a=serverlist&l=all&s=host
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world
http://www.ejabberd.im/servers
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers
https://web.amessage.eu/usage/hosts
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[23:23:27] <toon> zet: тогда и "известных нахрен ненужно
[23:25:07] <zet> toon: публичных
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[23:29:13] <toon> zet: Там и непубличные есть
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[23:29:39] <toon> zet: Каталоги джаббер серверов. и всё тут
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[23:34:48] <Nezhnaya> Привет.
Есть кто из Твери?
[23:34:48] Nezhnaya has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[23:45:19] <ЛюSANчик> Привет,а из самары?
[23:45:19] ЛюSANчик has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[23:46:45] <volo> Привет!:-)
[23:46:46] volo has been kicked: Это конференция техподдержки клиента Bombus. Здесь не принято слать приветы. Поболтать можно в bombus-talks@conference.jabber.ru. Спасибо за внимание!
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[23:56:26] <Мохнатый> Ну хотя бы из москвы или московской области :-D
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[23:57:41] <toon> Только с того света
[23:58:04] <Мохнатый> toon: и как там?
[23:58:14] <toon> И кстати что такое мосвы?
[23:58:51] <Мохнатый> toon: это глюк. Читать Москвы
[23:59:29] <toon> Откуда я знаю как там мы тут это ты там
[23:59:59] <toon> А что такое читать москвы?
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